TOPIC: I have noticed a trend going on...

Regular player propblocking: 1 week ban

Staff propblocking: A scripted response that says "They will be talked to next meeting" and no ban.

I say that we treat staff breaking rule the same as players breaking rules.

My prediction: Most staff will say no, most players will say yes.

Thought?

1 week ban for propblock?

Ayy lmao

Its not a trend.

No, just no -.-

We could of very well of spoken to this staff member in question.... What we choose to do to them is up to us and they are treated different because they put in a lot of time and help out more than a regular player. They do get punish when we feel its fit to do so.

I must disagree, although I do think it takes way too much to get a staff demoted (or even flagged as a potentially incapable candidate.)

Coo!_Quaggan! wrote: How would you even know?

You haven't been apart of the staff team in years, you have no idea how things work. So both of you need to stop acting like you do.

That's the thing, no body except the staff knows. If there was more clarity and we knew about the consequences of reports we wouldn't have these opinions.

And it's been about half a year since I've been mod.

You know what is irritating me? The power of forum bans.
AKA. Someone rdms someone else. [2 day ban] In-Game? 1 Warn.
Someone attempted rdm. [3 day ban] In-Game? 1 Warn.
This here is just a little bit of bs but thats my opinion.

Take in mind that we have 3 ex community managers community banned before and a shit ton of staff demoted before, if they prop block and minge around, they will get banned, but they don't do it to an extent to what most players do it as because they know they will get banned. The only thought I have on this "trend" is that you don't know what you're talking about.

khaitam2001 wrote: Don't break the TOU and you won't be banned.
Coo!_Quaggan! wrote: Thats simply not true. We report when staff have been dismissed from the team on the announcement page or by removing them from the rank list. You don't need to know the exact details, and there is no point in publicly humiliating demoted staff.

EMP wrote: You mean im breaking TOU? Or you just shouldn't break rules?

EMP wrote:
I can see where your coming from, but IMO there needs to be a structured warning tier system (not sure if there is one already, but hear me out,) that needs to be public.

Public? Why? Because in my opinion, which is just my opinion, people feel very unsatisfied with the whole "this will be talked about at the meeting," or "we will talk to him about this," line that has been used frequently. A tiered public warning system with clear rules and outlined that all know and all respect will help dissipate some of the obviously untrue rumors of bias in the community.

Now, the whole argument about public warns and humiliation is a downside, but if you think about it, it's also a kind of deterrence to staff. They don't want to be named in public, so they may be less likely to do things. It will also MAYBE serve as a wake up call, helping less experienced mods who have one or two warnings want to make things right.

There may be a tiered system already, as you're said I don't know, but I DO feel it should be publicized.


It's harder than you think ^{10+ times and preferably not counting.}

This is how I use my punishments:

Attempted CDM - Depending on the situation, will vary between 1 verbal warning and 1 warning
CDM - 1 warning
Incorrect job with a big weapon - 1 verbal warning and a talk (if continued will be 1 warning)
Illegal base - 1 verbal warning and a talk (if continued will be 1 warning)
Harassment - 1 warning
Metagaming - 1 warning
NLR - 1 warning
RDM - 1 warning
Attempted RDM - 1 warning
Lying to me - 1 warning
Propblock - 1 warning
Proppush - 1 warning
Propkill - 1 warning
Leaving the server to avoid punishment - depending on the culprit's actions, will vary between an extra warning or a day ban (ignoring time outs)
Any of the above listed + disrespect - 1 warning + 2 min jail time
Any of the above listed and co-operation with me - 1 verbal warning and 30 second jail time

Mass RDM - A day ban per person killed
Mass propblock - 3 days ban


I think I missed a few out, but all the minor rule breakings' will result in 1 warning.

calm yo tits guys, they're are doing a great Job as Staff Team.

If you disagree with something bring it to attention to any HeadAdmin and talk in private chat.

It all depends on the staff members... If it was Everso and Co then what you are saying is true, if not then it isn't


Nothing personal Everso <3