TOPIC: Edit rule 4.11

4.11 Raider-Defender Rule - Raiders must be able to shoot AND see you when you can shoot them.

So it says that a defender must be visible when they shot them and defend thier base.

Apparently it keeps getting ignored even by the all mighty admins



I think it confuses new mods and admins and it should be edited by removing the SEE were the raiders can see the defenders when the defenders are shoting at them part.
Unless making this dissalowed beacuse it is very OP this way. However, my friend got warned for this by some admin i don't remember and please just edit it.

I'm sorry Aspectionz but your post doesn't make sense to me.

What is it you are wanting and why? The video you attached is clearly against the rules as, the defender can see and shoot the raider whereas the raider can only shoot and not see where they are...?

A ton of admins (Whole gladius clan almost) (and dcx) said it was allowed.

its not, just becuase staff breaks the rules here doesnt mean the rules should be changed.

Sorry but i thought since Dcx said it was allowed it would. All admins have said it was allowed even though i have asked plenty of times. Who am i to ask if all admins says the same thing?

I was in doubt on if it was allowed, so i asked DCX, he told me it was allowed so i kept going, ive been asking alot around the community, and ive gotten alot feedback saying that this was allowed, so i assumed it was.

Well, the way the rule is actually worded would in theory prohibit this type of defense. That said this base type is kinda one sided. Who knows. Based admin will decide.

As long as its visa versa its allowed
- gems bond

i also talked with gems about this. because, i've been telling players that they can't have it like that, BECAUSE of that rule. I think it would be great if a higher staff from the lead team personally says that is it allowed or not.

Because, i know some other admins who thinks the same way as me.

It's how you read the rule. I personally don't think it should be allowed unless the rule stated that you should be able to shoot the defender when they can shoot you which would make sense since they can both shoot through the prop. But since it says they have to see each other then I think it is clearly against the rules.

Its not that difficult. If you shoot them , they need to see you & be able to shoot back . So If you kill the raiders like in the Video - its against the rules