TOPIC: Incase you were wondering

Yes, the USA used 15 year old logistical data that led to the bombing of a girls elementary school in iran. Ruthlessly slaughtering a minimum of 175 innocent people, mainly women and children. Personally, I think that although the USA can drop a bomb through a window, and can launch precise attacks into underground nuclear bunkers, the DIA expressed a disgusting level of incompetence. Trump saying that "it could have been anyone's Tomahawk missile." when only the USA, UK, Australia, and Japan have them shows that nobody will be held accountable. Same thing as what we did in the kosovo war, bombings in syria, the chinese embassy in belgrade, gross incompetence being allowed. Sad that this generation of a permanent government has had 50 years to learn from their own mistakes and the mistakes of dick cheney, henry kissenger, etc. yet they still continue this retarded and violent behavior. Could be terrorism disguised as incompetence but I do not think we are that cunning, cohesive, or smart enough for that. 

So... You're arguing that the U.S. repeatedly kills civilians due to bad intelligence and incompetence, and that no one is held responsible, despite decades of similar incidents?

Civilian deaths are always tragic, but claiming that the United States intentionally targets civilians or acts purely out of incompetence ignores much of the reality. The U.S. military spends billions on precision weapons, intelligence gathering, and operational oversight specifically to prevent such outcomes. When mistakes do occur, they are investigated and often publicly acknowledged, something many other countries rarely do. War is inherently chaotic, and intelligence is never perfect. However, portraying the United States as uniquely reckless while ignoring the broader complexity of global conflicts is not a fair assessment.

 

Toren wrote: I mean bombing an elementary school with 10 year old intelligence without doing a secondary and tertiary examination with drone surveillance is either incompetence or terrorism. If those who are responsible are sent to jail, I’ll eat my words. But if the only person to go to jail during the CIA torture program in the Middle East were the whistleblowers during the Obama administration, then I highly doubt anyone will be held responsible. I think the PEOPLE, not the capabilities, budget, etc are why you see these fuck ups. I think it is uniquely reckless to bomb an elementary school the way we just did. 

U.S. better update their google maps soon

I get your frustration about accountability, it’s true that very few high-level people are ever prosecuted, and that does feel unfair. But blaming whistleblowers instead of the system oversimplifies things. Often, the lack of prosecutions isn’t because no one was responsible, but because legal and political systems make it extremely difficult to hold leaders accountable for decisions made during war.If a high-value military target or leadership compound is located next to civilian infrastructure like a school, that in itself raises serious questions about why such assets are positioned there in the first place. Armed groups and governments have historically placed military facilities close to civilian areas, precisely because it complicates retaliation and creates situations like this.That doesn’t make civilian casualties acceptable, but it also doesn’t automatically mean the intent was to bomb a school. There’s a major difference between deliberately targeting civilians and a strike on a military objective that tragically results in collateral damage.

Same old shit repeating itself it seems, America has bombed the fuck out of Iran and destabilised the region since 1981. It allows them to keep doing it over and over once a new leader emerges in a broken country and the US have to “step in” as the obvious protectors of world peace..

Their military intelligence seems just fine bombing Kharg island and avoiding oil infrastructure. It’s just a case of the US dropping more bombs haphazardly to pad out defence contracts and embed their influence in the Middle East’s oil fields again and again.

Anyways lerpson do you think BB himself is actually dead?

maddox wrote: Great point about the Kharg Island. However I don’t think BB is dead (late reply by me, haven’t followed the news today or yesterday so he could be alive rn) , I think he’s hiding like a rat and has been since the wars began. I also think that if he did die, a much worse ruler would step up, because somehow BB isn’t the craziest man in the room, the calculated steps they continue to make tell me he hasn’t died.

and to your point about broadening their influence, this time around I don’t think that’ll be the case, I really think the UAE and other allies will look to another power because we aren’t protecting the region besides Qatar and Israel, at least not nearly as effectively as we promised. Furthermore, this is going to be a prolonged conflict, the strait of Hormuz will stay closed for the entirety of this war, Qatar will suffer economically, and Saudi Arabia will have billions and billions of lost economic activity from their tourist region being bombed. Not only this, but we took our ambassadors out of every American embassy in the region, our allies didn’t even know we were going to enter into a major conflict with Iran either.