TOPIC: Philosophical general discussion

Hello fellow zarpers, today I would like to generally discuss something philosophical, specifically Nozicks "experience machine". Its a rather simple thought experiment and I have no doubt alot of you are already familiar with it, but for those who are not essentially:
-Scientists have developed a wonderful "experience machine"
-Entering it guarantees a pleasure filled, "fulfilled" life
-Entering the machine erases your memory of your past life, but your new one is obviously in a simulation so no one in this new life is "real" and nothing you do matters as you are still in the machine

Nozick developed this to counter the hedonistic view that pleasure is the only good and it must be maximised (utilitarianism), and proposed that most people would not enter the experience machine as they seek more than just pleasure, e.g external states in the world such as our childrens happiness, or at least pleasure that is "in contact with reality".
I would like to have some input as to whether you guys would enter the experience machine or not (and also why or why not)

man I'd do it in a heartbeat

I would not enter it as I live a fulfilling life of my own.
This machine is escapism

depends on how much time would pass while ur in the machine. like would you die in real life when you die in this new life? If not, how much time would have passed bc if it was like a week or something then sure that would be cool but if it was like a year in the machine is a year irl then fuck no

Are you aware you are in the machine though?

Nogtog wrote: it runs parralel to regular reality (same time passing), and since it is pregenerated you will only die in the simulation when you are going to die of old age in real life

Jawson wrote: All memory of previous reality is erased, and no you are not

what if you're already in the machine

maddox wrote:
Does this mean entering the machine effectively gives the person only good experiences and no bad experiences at all?

If so, I don't think I would be able to participate since I believe the bad that comes with the good and vice versa is good for you

Paladin wrote: I believe nozick said it would tailor to the person, so whatever a "fulfilled" life is for you

Kanna. wrote: True

I was half expecting this to be a what your meal deal says about you

BNTI Zhuk 3 Body Armor wrote:
this is something only plain ham sandwich eaters think of.

Nafe wrote:
My philosophy is the same as hitlers slaughter of all those different from myself regardless of race/sexuality/gender because I KNOW I am superior - Hoisin duck wrap enjoyers

BNTI Zhuk 3 Body Armor wrote: Can confirm I had a hoisin duck wrap today and tried to take over my local German doner