TOPIC: What are your plans for Christmas & New Year's?

IIIlllIIIllIIIllIIIllIIIll wrote: Drinking to drown any emotional pain and sorrows is probably one of the worst things you can do for yourself I canny lie man, taking the fast lane to alcoholism and dependency.

maddox wrote: Great insight man, as usual.

IIIlllIIIllIIIllIIIllIIIll wrote: That's great to hear man, I wasn't referring to you in my post if you thought that. But nowadays there are so many snowflakes and self-diagnosing people who just pretend to care about dumb shit for attention and people who just constantly beat themselves up for stupid reasons. People who refuse to lift themself up and would much rather just be alone and depressed all while feeling pity in hopes of something changing instead of being the change.

Agebt wrote: If you want my genuine insight, bearing in mind I am not and never claimed to be some sort of expert. There is a lot more to depression and general dissatisfaction with life than what people “choose” to care about, although there is no consensus about the mind in psychology, there is a general agreement that the vast majority of processes are unconscious and beyond our access. For example the psychodynamic approach which saw the mind as having 3 basic components, the id, the ego and the superego. The id being completely unconscious with both the ego and superego being partly of significantly unconscious. Therefore, saying that depressed people can magically become happy by changing their lifestyle and “what they care about” is pretty stupid, although it can be seen as partly true - exercising, diet and other lifestyle changes can improve mental health, Deeply ingrained trauma isn’t going away that easy chief as it is embedded in their unconscious mind.

maddox wrote: I guess we just go fuck ourselves and stay unhappy because Sigmund Freuds theory said my brain makes me sad and I can't control my own brain and thought process my brain say I sad so I sad

Agebt wrote: Ah yes it's stupid to care about the thing that's making you sad, just care about something else

ronaldmarc2009 wrote: Reductive statement. ah yes it's not stupid to be sad about things out of your control and use said sadness for self destructive behaviour creating a cycle of self-pity

Lewis_is_java wrote: Doesn’t sound like you understood my point, All I’m saying is that mental health is a lot more complicated than he and you are making it out to be. Maybe your logic applies to someone who the worst thing they have suffered are the morning blues, I’m more referring to mental illness and trauma etc

Agebt wrote:
Although I agree to an extent in regards to people helping themselves its not that simple because the spectrum of mental illness is massive. Don't get me wrong I see it all the time with people who decide to wallow instead of attempting to help themselves so my question to you is what if someone who is mentally ill but is taking steps and doing their damnedest for self improvement but due to whatever condition they are suffering from keeps knocking them back, they still pull themselves back up but when they step forward they get knocked back for reasons out of their control. What do you suggest for that situation? I'd also like to ask when do you get to decide who is suffering and who is a self wallowing snowflake? To me every single person is different and thinks about stuff differently and some stuff that may not bother you or I may feel absolutely dreadful to them. That goes back to my point of how huge of a spectrum mental illness is.

Anyway unless you have questions back I shall read your answers and thank you your post as I do not wish to derail what should be a much happier thread.

MsRevine wrote: I plan on OD, the real way of a good time

maddox wrote: Our points (or at least mine) wasn't ever about mental health, my point is about your views and perspectives on the world and situations, people are just so incredibly pessimistic and nihilistic and this people do have control over and can allow situations that are out of your control t not effect or upset you or control your life.

nice try, burglar

Lewis_is_java wrote: Well as my points were specifically about mental health and you were responding to me, your point is Irrelevant. As I said here

I’m goin up north to stay in a cabin in the snow with my family Going to be nice because we don’t really get any snow down here in Florida

CEO of Business wrote: The cabin will burn down during your stay.

Clarky wrote: what the hell

CEO of Business wrote: I will burn it.

Lewis_is_java wrote:
People can find comfort in nihilism and it can also work in their favor, I know this because I have been nihilistic for years now and mixing that with no fear of death and the other thingy. Combining the 3 of them put me in a place of screw it why would I not try anything and everything and if things go so terribly wrong im either back where I started or can just peace the fuck out like a coward running from a problem. Really has worked wonders to getting me out of a self loathing slump, working (which is constant excise) and socializing properly.

maddox wrote: Well as our initial points weren't about mental health your reply and point to us was irrelevant

IIIlllIIIllIIIllIIIllIIIll wrote: Do you think you might be an outlier? I'm not an expert on the nihilist philosophy but I've always seen it as something that would discourage motivation, if their is no purpose, their is no goal etc etc.