TOPIC: Opinions?

This is old and weed is already legal but I believe Tucker brought up a good point about this- go to 1:50 and just watch
Lmk what y think

Me and Gunnar watched Tucker live every night on FOX

Actually, feel more than free to watch the whole thing his democratic debate is a dumpster fire (as all of them are)

He's probably always gonna disagree with this guy because of his position on tv and stuff.
However I agree with bernie, drugs shouldn't be illegal and why not let local communities sell and profit from it over big pharma?
The main reason people claim the stuff is illegal is because a plant can't be patented and big corporations can't make money of it

Morgan wrote: Tucker may be one of the greatest republican personalities out there as of right now. I still can’t believe the democratic/liberal party still exists

Lewis_is_java wrote: Now are you saying all drugs? If so what benefits would come from a drug addicted country? The economy will not see a benefit if people are addicted to “legal and clean heroin”
If you are saying weed he says let blacks and Latinos sell instead of big corporations which already didn’t work, I don’t see a huge issue with the legalization of medical marijuana but legalizing it recreationally can lead to paranoia, addiction, confusion and laziness in some people. I smoke weed (please thank you this post because I’m cool) but I’ve experienced all but addiction to the substance and allowing it on everyone to try is not safe without the proper laws. Weed is addictive as it provides a sense of happiness and you forget about shit u don’t want to think about, irresponsible people which there are a lot in America will then work, drive, and operate heavy machinery under the substance. I don’t deem it to be safe to be legalized but I believe if you get caught with a blunt you should have it confiscated with no ticket, if you have enough with reason to sell you should face a fine and possible jail time.

Carson wrote: People will take drugs if it's legal or not so why not make it legal and reduce all the risks that comes with the war on drugs,I can't explain all the points on this but feel free to watch this video (and any others on this channel it's amazing) but it goes through the problems that were created through the legalisation and war on drugs and the benefits countries have seen from illegalising of drugs, ie reduction of diseases, crimes etc. really good video. And weed isn't addictive, you can't die from it and it doesn't cause psychological problems hence why it's being legalised in states.

Lewis_is_java wrote: I will watch the video when I can and smaller countries have seen benefits but why let someone who is falling apart in life and just doesn’t care to be able to go a store and buy hard drugs? Almost any homeless person you see is addicted to drugs and profiting off that isn’t right. Your statement saying weed isn’t addictive and it doesn’t create psychological problems is wrong. Here is a Harvard study showing that teens who smoke weed regularly have a higher chance at psychosis and schizophrenia www.health.harvard.edu/blog/teens-who-sm...ychosis-201103071676 here is another source showing weed can cause terrible paranoia which is something I experienced back about 2 years ago dualdiagnosis.org/marijuana-abuse/marijuana-paranoia/ this source shows that up to 30% of people who use marijuana have some sort of disorder/addiction to taking this drug. www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-.../marijuana-addictive
Please do the research before claiming marijuana is everything good.

Carson wrote: Out of those 3 sources non of them were studies, the first one being a blog post rather than a study please link me a study, and if you watched the video you will see that with one of the countries being Switzerland one of their methods instead of attacking drugs was to open a health clinic which offered free high quality and clean heroin so that people who are homeless and take drugs to ease pain and provide money which funds crime could wean of their addiction without spending allowing their money to be used in their life and in that study the results were very effective, I get your point of view about that you think drugs should stay illegal and this will prevent it but it's an outdated view. that homeless person in your analogy will still be profited from by some drug gang who wouldn't care if their mixed-up drug diluted with some poison all for the sake of more money and this gang would not care if that person died.

Edit: I took the liberty to find a study for you www.pnas.org/content/111/30/E3149/tab-article-info
However I can't access the full journal to see the methodology to determine the reliability and validity of this study however this is a study

Lewis_is_java wrote: Now I see in that article marijuana lowers dopamine receptors meaning it can help with addiction on drugs such as heroin and prescription pain medication, this does not help with drugs like meth, crack, coke, alcohol or drugs like mdma. Now with the part of Switzerland not every drug addict can fully turn around with help of clinics, that being they have no one other than clinics and therapists such as they don’t have a family or a real friend group to help them plus where would we get the money with the 20+ trillion dollars of debt America currently has that could help these people financially because I know people who aren’t addicted to drugs but struggle financially wouldn’t appreciate another tax to help people who couldn’t get their lives straight themselves so the question lies there, where would we get that sort of money to unban drugs, decriminalize them, and then help these people financially with money that we either don’t have or money citizens don’t want to give up? I can find some different sources of studies showing that mental problems develop from marijuana when you abuse the drug but I would like you to answer how we could find the money then implement it into practically giving people another form of welfare.

Carson wrote: You say all this but have no evidence to back it up and frankly am disappointed right now because I took the time to watch your video but you don't mine and you creat narratives like " yeah that Switzerland thing which totally worked might not work for everyone" it feels like you're trying to push your agenda and opinion on to me and others, where as if you took the time to listen to the opinions you asked for you would understand the war on drugs largely contributes to the huge debt America is in and just because America is already in debt does not mean they can implement things like this that would help the country and it's economy,it's called an investment. I would like you to answer how America can continue to afford funding money and assets into the war on drugs, providing galleries to DEA which wouldn't exist as cartels and drug gangs wouldn't be needed as there is no demand if a drug is being made and sold locally as well as the huge increase the war on drugs has lead to incarcerations which are incredibly expensive, realistically ending the war on drugs and making them legal is the far cheaper option

Lewis_is_java wrote: My narrative is not being pushed onto anyone and you saying that is very funny as I could say the same to you. Your first point was just legalize all drugs let them take it they will take them anyways, you are now saying rather than letting people feed their horrible addictions or let new people get hooked on a cheap drug that is allowed by the government would be fine. There is now this new narrative that is slightly more understandable is rather than letting people continue their addictions lets get them help. I did not only say yeah just keep it as it is as the war on drugs, I believe the war on drugs should not have as much funding but I also believe allowing these people to gain financial support the their own decisions on an investment which is far from risk free is also a very poor decision. There are already plenty of rehab centers that are there to help that will not throw you in jail in America already so why would we just need to remove the ban of drugs entirely. The drugs to cartel are providing and bringing into the country illegally already will be 5 steps ahead of Americas government, you know how you said these drugs are already filled with shit anyways making it cheaper for them to make, us legalizing and selling these drugs ourselves will only create a competition as they can sell these drugs diluted for a much cheaper price if they want to, they dont need to because they make enough money on the addicted people of America but this will go on forever. We need stricter border security to combat them from even entering the country along with instead of immediately throwing someone in jail get them the help they need. And before you say I am agreeing with what you are saying with the last point I just made most jails and police stations have already provided help for people with addictions.
Edit: to add on to this switzerland also doesnt have a mexico nor do they have a cartel shipping in drugs at the same quantity that we are dealing with right now so not only would that statement not work you then have to say im pushing a narrative.

Carson wrote: I'm going to ignore everything before the bold as these are you're guesses of what would happen despite what I have said being evidence rather than my guess, but to back up the Switzerland thing, Portugal in 2001 tried the same "harm reduction"method and people seen using hard drugs were helped for an addiction rather than it being seen as a crime and this turned their huge drug problem around evidence, Jails are not a place to help people with addicitions

Edit: this will also be final post as you're unable to open eyes and review evidence to a view which helps people and reduces problems rather than escalate them and to claim I push a narrative is stupid as I actually found an article to back up you're own marijuana being bad case which you were incapable of doing yourself, how funny.

Carson wrote:
I still can't believe the Republican scandal is still going

Lewis_is_java wrote: I never said i was not open for discussion as I am actually really enjoying the debate we are having, I do not appreciate you saying I am pushing a narrative when I am not, I am just simply showing my opinions as you are too. You are also correct about the jail issues, people who are in jail for around 4+ years which happens to a lot of people have a lot of problems after coming back to the normal society and end up committing crimes just to go back to jail.

Carson wrote: If you do not want to reply that is your choice, but rather than an argument on the war on drugs a discussion on jails and rehabilitation from committing crimes would be greatly appreciated as I believe you and I can agree on more things about that rather than the war on drugs as we have very different views on that topic rather than the war on drugs topic.

The legalization and decriminalization of drugs have been seen to have pretty good effects, the taxes alone would be able to help with a ton of things in at least the US, and like lewis said if someone wants to do drugs they will. So it only seems logical that allowing clean and taxed drugs would help with funding better clinics to help people with a problem. This would also lower the amount of non-violent criminals in prisons again cutting down on government spending. This would also really help with disenfranchised communities like the Black and Hispanic communities. Unironically having more father figures and a less drug related upbringing would help very much. And that in turn would produce better parents to help raise better kids and so on, the chain of effects that this would most likely lead to (in my opinion) outweigh the negative points.