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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871651

Is saying black against the tou now lol?
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871653

Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871655

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Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871656

No but deliberately using it in order to try insult or offend someone is TOU since it can be seen as racism
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871657

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Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
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WOAH THERE SIR, THIS IS THE TOU POLICE!!! GET ON THE GROUND AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD!
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871658

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Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
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WOAH THERE SIR, THIS IS THE TOU POLICE!!! GET ON THE GROUND AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD!
Cause I am black?
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871663

Mico wrote:
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Mico wrote:
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Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
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WOAH THERE SIR, THIS IS THE TOU POLICE!!! GET ON THE GROUND AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD!
Cause I am black?

Pft well, no of course not... well I mean...

No... yes.. no..

DOESNT MATTER RACIST SCUM!! YOURE UNDER ARREST
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871672

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No but deliberately using it in order to try insult or offend someone is TOU since it can be seen as racism

I understand that BUT how is killing your friend and calling him black racist? and then he gets banned for 2 days?

Sorry, but the logic is flawed
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871673

TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
Asian

WOAH THERE SIR, THIS IS THE TOU POLICE!!! GET ON THE GROUND AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD!
Cause I am black?

Pft well, no of course not... well I mean...

No... yes.. no..

DOESNT MATTER RACIST SCUM!! YOURE UNDER ARREST
Asian
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871676

Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
Asian

WOAH THERE SIR, THIS IS THE TOU POLICE!!! GET ON THE GROUND AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD!
Cause I am black?

Pft well, no of course not... well I mean...

No... yes.. no..

DOESNT MATTER RACIST SCUM!! YOURE UNDER ARREST
Asian

Fuck, this guy is good. Do I have permission to kill?!?! Of course he’s armed! With his words!!!!!
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871680

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Clarky wrote:
No but deliberately using it in order to try insult or offend someone is TOU since it can be seen as racism

I understand that BUT how is killing your friend and calling him black racist? and then he gets banned for 2 days?

Sorry, but the logic is flawed
Because it can be seen as if he was killed for being a "black man" whilst you guys may see it differently. It makes sense in both perspectives but I recommend that it shouldn't be said without correct context behind it or it's going to cause issues.

EDIT: Klaprefot's report I was talking about in the first sentence btw^
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871715

TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
Asian

WOAH THERE SIR, THIS IS THE TOU POLICE!!! GET ON THE GROUND AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD!
Cause I am black?

Pft well, no of course not... well I mean...

No... yes.. no..

DOESNT MATTER RACIST SCUM!! YOURE UNDER ARREST
Asian

Fuck, this guy is good. Do I have permission to kill?!?! Of course he’s armed! With his words!!!!!
Nah I have a gun
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871728

It's mostly based on the context, saying the word or calling someone black isn't racist but it can be used in a racist context and that makes them racist, for example when Raeker commented on Skeleton's application "I don't want you to be accepted because you are a black man" is very racist as it states that he doesn't want someone accepted purely because of the skin of their color. Saying something like "What's up black man?" isn't racist because it's not used in a racist way.
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871734

Clarky wrote:
.x. wrote:
Clarky wrote:
No but deliberately using it in order to try insult or offend someone is TOU since it can be seen as racism

I understand that BUT how is killing your friend and calling him black racist? and then he gets banned for 2 days?

Sorry, but the logic is flawed
Because it can be seen as if he was killed for being a "black man" whilst you guys may see it differently. It makes sense in both perspectives but I recommend that it shouldn't be said without correct context behind it or it's going to cause issues.

EDIT: Klaprefot's report I was talking about in the first sentence btw^
I think it causes more issues if staff members decide to ban a user for a day for a friendly comment between two friends that does not involve any racial slur or anything that can be considered racism.

Sorry, but I'm actually dissapointed to see where SSRP has gotten to as far as leniency goes. I'm all for stricter punishments, but this is practically abuse and you guys are allowing it.
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871740

Clarky wrote:
.x. wrote:
Clarky wrote:
No but deliberately using it in order to try insult or offend someone is TOU since it can be seen as racism

I understand that BUT how is killing your friend and calling him black racist? and then he gets banned for 2 days?

Sorry, but the logic is flawed
Because it can be seen as if he was killed for being a "black man" whilst you guys may see it differently. It makes sense in both perspectives but I recommend that it shouldn't be said without correct context behind it or it's going to cause issues.

EDIT: Klaprefot's report I was talking about in the first sentence btw^

But what if we want racism
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871745

Raeker wrote:
Clarky wrote:
.x. wrote:
Clarky wrote:
No but deliberately using it in order to try insult or offend someone is TOU since it can be seen as racism

I understand that BUT how is killing your friend and calling him black racist? and then he gets banned for 2 days?

Sorry, but the logic is flawed
Because it can be seen as if he was killed for being a "black man" whilst you guys may see it differently. It makes sense in both perspectives but I recommend that it shouldn't be said without correct context behind it or it's going to cause issues.

EDIT: Klaprefot's report I was talking about in the first sentence btw^
I think it causes more issues if staff members decide to ban a user for a day for a friendly comment between two friends that does not involve any racial slur or anything that can be considered racism.

I never agreed with Skeleton's ban though, I don't think it should of been placed but it is valid at the end of the day so it's too bad if you disagree with it - you can go talk to Skeleton about it.


Sorry, but I'm actually dissapointed to see where SSRP has gotten to as far as leniency goes. I'm all for stricter punishments, but this is practically abuse and you guys are allowing it.

It isn't practically abuse because the punishment is valid but a ban was not needed however due to a recent announcement it is a straight up one day ban therefore there is no wrongdoing here. Most of the time in SSRP, people are given verbal warnings and such a lot so you have no idea what you're talking about especially when you don't even play the servers about leniency against players who break rules.
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871764

TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mico wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Everything is against tou, this is a silent server now
Asian

WOAH THERE SIR, THIS IS THE TOU POLICE!!! GET ON THE GROUND AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD!
Cause I am black?

Pft well, no of course not... well I mean...

No... yes.. no..

DOESNT MATTER RACIST SCUM!! YOURE UNDER ARREST
Asian

Fuck, this guy is good. Do I have permission to kill?!?! Of course he’s armed! With his words!!!!!
huh Yellow Asian
watch me get banned for racism
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Hmm question 7 years 4 months ago #871771

Clarky wrote:
Raeker wrote:
Clarky wrote:
.x. wrote:
Clarky wrote:
No but deliberately using it in order to try insult or offend someone is TOU since it can be seen as racism

I understand that BUT how is killing your friend and calling him black racist? and then he gets banned for 2 days?

Sorry, but the logic is flawed
Because it can be seen as if he was killed for being a "black man" whilst you guys may see it differently. It makes sense in both perspectives but I recommend that it shouldn't be said without correct context behind it or it's going to cause issues.

EDIT: Klaprefot's report I was talking about in the first sentence btw^
I think it causes more issues if staff members decide to ban a user for a day for a friendly comment between two friends that does not involve any racial slur or anything that can be considered racism.

I never agreed with Skeleton's ban though, I don't think it should of been placed but it is valid at the end of the day so it's too bad if you disagree with it - you can go talk to Skeleton about it.


Sorry, but I'm actually dissapointed to see where SSRP has gotten to as far as leniency goes. I'm all for stricter punishments, but this is practically abuse and you guys are allowing it.

It isn't practically abuse because the punishment is valid but a ban was not needed however due to a recent announcement it is a straight up one day ban therefore there is no wrongdoing here. Most of the time in SSRP, people are given verbal warnings and such a lot so you have no idea what you're talking about especially when you don't even play the servers about leniency against players who break rules.
I can still make an observance and give criticism based on what I see. Saying "Black man" isn't racist, saying "die in hell, black man" is also not racist. Nobody was offended by it.

Just like how we have different opinions on what racism is and means, we also have different opinions on the meaning of abuse. I find harsh punishments abusive because they do not help the server. This user was friends with the user that he was "racist" towards. Nobody else could hear it. The term wasn't that offensive, even if you do see it as racism you have to agree there.

There was no reason to punish this user aside from Skeleton going on an ego trip. Your power should be used to help the server, not to punish users for the sole reason of punishing them. It says more about Skeleton than anything else - perhaps I shouldn't have used the whole server in that analogy. My apologies.
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