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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #413905

Name - 0ctocat (at the time S L A M Master 5000
STEAM-ID - STEAM_0:0:33567683
Staff Members Name - Michael
Warning Reason - Attempted rdm
Server - 3
Story/Situation - I was trying to slam jump to a roof he was standing a bit to close and got barely damaged by the slams, after which he dragged me to a roof and while I was explaining my side of the story he just warned me didint even hear me out. i pmed him the rest and he told me to just do this.

I assumed the slams were too far to hurt him and he saw me do it the first time without harming anyone, and the second time it seemed he literaly just warned me to warn me
Extra Information - wtf man chill out

edit reason: spelled my name wrong
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #413913

Oke i see you might have damaged him with the slam. But why were you trying to get upthere int he first place? Your not allowed to abuse items like that or hide anything on a roof so theres no reason to use a slam for that kind of reason. I will contact a HA/ SA about this so they can look further into this i hope. Michael wasn't wrong by warning you as it is still attempted rdm and you should look out more. He was wrong not to listen to your side of the story. I hope i can try get help for you but you might not get unwarned.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #413921

marijnishier wrote:
Oke i see you might have damaged him with the slam. But why were you trying to get upthere int he first place? Your not allowed to abuse items like that or hide anything on a roof so theres no reason to use a slam for that kind of reason. I will contact a HA/ SA about this so they can look further into this i hope. Michael wasn't wrong by warning you as it is still attempted rdm and you should look out more. He was wrong not to listen to your side of the story. I hope i can try get help for you but you might not get unwarned.
How, in your right mind, could you EVER consider it attempted RDM? Let me get you the definition of attempt:


By his story, do you really think he was actively attempting to RDM him?

Also, you are allowed to use slams like this, so I don't know what you're talking about. It can be used for raids, or he might just want to get onto a roof for fun.

Michael shouldn't have got so close, as 0ctocat's intentions must've been clear enough. From my point of view, Michael holds some kind of grudge and was looking for a reason to warn him, or 0ctocat just accidentally damaged him while having a different intention. Either way, Michael was WAY too harsh.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #413941

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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414008

1) You can't use slams to gain height in roofs as it's exploiting so either way you're in the wrong, I'll speak to Michael when ever he's back online.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414018

Jordan Johnston wrote:
1) You can't use slams to gain height in roofs as it's exploiting so either way you're in the wrong, I'll speak to Michael when ever he's back online.
This is stated no where in the rules and if I didn't know it and neither did 0ctocat it's clearly not very well known.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414028

Oh shit Silly admin gets butthurt again.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414030

Sorle wrote:
This is stated no where in the rules and if I didn't know it and neither did 0ctocat it's clearly not very well known.

1.7 Exploiting - Purposely abusing unintentional game features is prohibited.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414035

Coutinroy wrote:
Sorle wrote:
This is stated no where in the rules and if I didn't know it and neither did 0ctocat it's clearly not very well known.
1.7 Exploiting - Purposely abusing unintentional game features is prohibited.
I'm aware of this, however hand cannon jumping is a similar thing and that's allowed as far as I'm aware, so I just put two and two together and assumed SLAM jumping was allowed.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414045

Might wanna get this checked with the owners.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414054

The actual reason why this is not allowed is, slam jumping is not very roleplay like. I could understand building a cannon to shoot you since it is more realistic. I think many people forget most rules are there not to enforce people to do the right thing, but to roleplay and not disrupt it.

Anyhow I believe a verbal warning should have been enough to clear this situation... Hope this gets resolved and also clears up the confusion. Goodluck.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414059

Sorle wrote:
Coutinroy wrote:
Sorle wrote:
This is stated no where in the rules and if I didn't know it and neither did 0ctocat it's clearly not very well known.
1.7 Exploiting - Purposely abusing unintentional game features is prohibited.
I'm aware of this, however hand cannon jumping is a similar thing and that's allowed as far as I'm aware, so I just put two and two together and assumed SLAM jumping was allowed.

Not really one the hand cannons ability to launch a player is intentional

1.7 Exploiting - Purposely abusing unintentional game features is prohibited.

The slams use it to kill player not to launch players into the air it's the same as using the stuck stick to launch players to gain a advantage in a rp situation,
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414330

Jordan Johnston wrote:
1) You can't use slams to gain height in roofs as it's exploiting so either way you're in the wrong, I'll speak to Michael when ever he's back online.

ok so if you want to ignore that part where he warned me for accidently hurting him, and say thats a second warn for slam jumping, something not even michael knew abuot ok

then ill have 2 warns for breaking rules most staff dont know exist
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414333

0ctocat wrote:
Jordan Johnston wrote:
1) You can't use slams to gain height in roofs as it's exploiting so either way you're in the wrong, I'll speak to Michael when ever he's back online.

ok so if you want to ignore that part where he warned me for accidently hurting him, and say thats a second warn for slam jumping, something not even michael knew abuot ok

then ill have 2 warns for breaking rules most staff dont know exist

I truly understand your predicament. I believe there should be definitions on this. But the rules are already tidy and is long. Compressing it further and adding more might not be a good thing. Too many rules can be complicating things.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414338

0ctocat wrote:
Jordan Johnston wrote:
1) You can't use slams to gain height in roofs as it's exploiting so either way you're in the wrong, I'll speak to Michael when ever he's back online.

ok so if you want to ignore that part where he warned me for accidently hurting him, and say thats a second warn for slam jumping, something not even michael knew abuot ok

then ill have 2 warns for breaking rules most staff dont know exist

No buddy, I never warned your because of this thread. I warned you today as I saw you do it right infront of me.
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414352

Honestly, I'd just say get used to it. I got warned by Jordan for rdm when I shot swiiftz with a tommy gun as banter (didn't even kill him tho)
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414355

Jordan Johnston wrote:
No buddy, I never warned your because of this thread. I warned you today as I saw you do it right infront of me.

from the look of the last post I assumed the warn for attmpted rdm could have been kept becuase of slam jumping, im not contesting that warn even tho i think its bs
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[SSRP] unjust warn 7 years 6 months ago #414624

After speaking with Michael we've decided to deny this appeal, the reason being you shouldn't be exploiting the slams anyways.

#Denied
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