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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365745

Name - Thezeus
STEAM-ID - STEAM_0:0:36544687
Admins name - Gmod Troller
Reason - Racism
Server - SSRP
Time - 5 days
Story - My mic didn't work on gmod for a few days, and I wanted to check if it does now, so I asked LJ on teamspeak to tell me if he can hear me.
When testing my mic I said the N word, gmod troller heard it and banned me for 5 days.

While it was wrong for me to say the N word, 5 days is a harsh punishment considering it wasn't aimed towards anyone, and that he could and should have used the mute and gag functions.
"Wherever possible use powers such as mute, freeze and jail instead of banning and kicking." - as quoted from here: zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/darkrp/59861-ssrp-staff-ethos

Proof - No, I'm sure Gmod Troller can vouch for me that the story is correct.
Extra information - The ban could have been avoided by correct use of the gag and mute functions.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365746

Ive been told you have said stuff like this in the pass.It was not needed for you to say the n word to test your mic.But i believe you deserve a second chance or to get it lowered atleast.

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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365747

This ban is outrageous. The fact that you received a 5-day ban from, shows that gmod troller is really biased admin. He clearly has something against you.

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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365748

If I were an admin and got 2 reports of disrespect accepted against me, I wouldn't ban someone for saying the N word unintentionally for 5 days.

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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365749

Though the ban is way too harsh, before the new protocol for staff members, racism was taken quite seriously and any use of racism in any server would've landed them a minimum of a 3 day ban or so. So this ban is just slightly justified if the protocol didn't exist.

However, with the protocol in place, Gmod should really give a warning for the use of the word. So I do believe that thezeus should be unbanned and instead given a warning.

Imo, gmod may have personal issues with thezeus, this ban doesn't exactly give any evidence of bias whatsoever.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365750

The amount of times that ive had to deal with you since you've returned in playing is outrageous, I even banned you for 2 days recently with one of the reasons as racism, you've gotten warnings for disrespect, muted multiple times. This 5 day ban is deserving and you should really learn how to change your attitude on this 5 day ban. Read the rules and change your ways or the times are just going to keep increasing.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=736744693
For all of those saying this is ridiculous you havent see this player in game in such a bad term as much as I had.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365752

Almost all punishments are from gmod troller. Seems like gmod troller is targetting you pretty bad. And a 2 day ban for linking his picture? that was ON the forums? That is just bullshit.

* He even said in the chat " I was testing my mic ". It's not like he went around calling people <racist word>. This ban is just crazy.
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Last Edit: 7 years 7 months ago by Roy Harper. Reason: removed racist word
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365753

Gmod Troller wrote:
The amount of times that ive had to deal with you since you've returned in playing is outrageous, I even banned you for 2 days recently with one of the reasons as racism, you've gotten warnings for disrespect, muted multiple times. This 5 day ban is deserving and you should really learn how to change your attitude on this 5 day ban. Read the rules and change your ways or the times are just going to keep increasing.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=736744693
For all of those saying this is ridiculous you havent see this player in game in such a bad term as much as I had.

First of all you muted and gagged me once, and when I reconnected you thought it was to avoid the punishment so you gave me 5 more minutes, so don't try to bullshit anyone.

The ban for 2 days wasn't any related to racism, you can clearly see in the logs that you warned me once already for racism and you decided to add it to the ban's reason, and even then I apologized if anyone got offended, so yeah, another bullshit.

So yes, you muted me once for something that isn't even related and I already made a thread about and got accepted (www.zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/repor...pect-toxic-behaviour), and warned me once for racism.
It still doesn't mean the 5 days ban is justified, as it could have been avoided by a mute or a gag, which you have NEVER used correctly on me, as I proved in the thread above.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365756

Jacob wrote:
Almost all punishments are from gmod troller. Seems like gmod troller is targetting you pretty bad. And a 2 day ban for linking his picture? that was ON the forums? That is just bullshit.

* He even said in the chat " I was testing my mic ". It's not like he went around calling people <racist word>. This ban is just crazy.
So if someone has a lot of punishments from 1 guy means that they are not true? Please stop posting here if u are gonna defend your friend with stupid excuses

Anyways 5 days still seems kinda rough.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365762

Here is the thing, none of you have experienced THEZEUS like I have. He is extremely toxic, he's disrespectful, he breaks rules when he thinks he can get away with it, he has past punishments and he is always if not most of the time doing things to upset me, harm me or just piss me off. I've been told by a Head Admin if a player has been punished for things like this in the past and it's at the point where a ban is at stake then you may ban them. In this case I banned him because he deserved it for the amount of Disrespect, Racism, Harassment, Toxicity (Not Punishable), Horrible attitude (Not Punishable) and rule breaking. He has been punished enough and spoken to enough for this and it's time he takes a bigger time out than usual.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365763

Both me and Luan will be handling this appeal, we'll post back shortly with the outcome.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365764

Gmod Troller wrote:
Here is the thing, none of you have experienced THEZEUS like I have. He is extremely toxic, he's disrespectful, he breaks rules when he thinks he can get away with it, he has past punishments and he is always if not most of the time doing things to upset me, harm me or just piss me off. I've been told by a Head Admin if a player has been punished for things like this in the past and it's at the point where a ban is at stake then you may ban them. In this case I banned him because he deserved it for the amount of Disrespect, Racism, Harassment, Toxicity (Not Punishable), Horrible attitude (Not Punishable) and rule breaking. He has been punished enough and spoken to enough for this and it's time he takes a bigger time out than usual.

See. the problem here is that, you always start arguements. You are the most disrespsectful admin I've ever seen Gmod, you call people shit, and say their aim sucks. And overall you just think you are the best.
In this case, you are cloaked, while in a rp job. clearly TARGETTING zeus, it's easy to see that you have something against him. He deserved a warn for saying the n-word yes. But not a 5 day ban.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365767

Gmod Troller wrote:
Here is the thing, none of you have experienced THEZEUS like I have. He is extremely toxic, he's disrespectful
I could say the same about you, and there are two sides to every story.
All of our arguments began by me successfuly raiding you, which as far as I know isn't disrespectful, it's a part of the game, deal with it.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, how you deal with losing isn't supposed to affecting you as much as it does.
Gmod Troller wrote:
he breaks rules when he thinks he can get away with it, he has past punishments and he is always if not most of the time doing things to upset me, harm me or just piss me off.
No, when I break a rule I don't argue unless it's invalid.
I admit my mistakes unlike you.
And me raiding you is a part of the game, if it harms you and pisses you off it's not supposed to be any of my concerns.
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I've been told by a Head Admin if a player has been punished for things like this in the past and it's at the point where a ban is at stake then you may ban them.
As I pointed at a comment above, the only punishment you gave me for racism was a kick.
The 2 days ban wasn't for racism, even in the reason you can see that you noted "racism (earlier)".

Pointing out again, of course being racist is wrong, but it wasn't meant towards anyone and a gag & mute could be perfect in this situation.
Gmod Troller wrote:
In this case I banned him because he deserved it for the amount of Disrespect, Racism, Harassment, Toxicity (Not Punishable), Horrible attitude (Not Punishable) and rule breaking. He has been punished enough and spoken to enough for this and it's time he takes a bigger time out than usual.

Feels like I'm repeating myself.
There are two sides to every story, you were just as toxic and disrespectful as I was, and probably more, and I remind you that you had 2 reports about you being disrespectful accepted, so please.
Repeating myself again, you only kicked me once for racism, and the gap between a kick and a 5 days ban is huge, especially when a gag and a mute could do their job perfectly.
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[SSRP] Thezeus unban appeal racism 8 years 3 months ago #365788

Hello ,
We have discussed this with gmod and the ban was a little long but you were in the end still racist so we have decided to accept this appeal and lower your ban. You do know that racism is not acceptable and in the future you could use other words to test your mic.
Thank you for making this appeal

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