Login to ZARP

TOPIC: Un-warn Appeal

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302926

Name - ThatMeerkat

STEAM-ID - STEAM_0:0:49537295

Admins name - Jordan Johnston

Reason - Warned for RDM

Server - SSRP1

Story - Got stun sticked, jordan picked the guy up, I shot him, jordan jailed me and warned me for "rdm". There's no rule that says once a guy has been picked up he can never be touched.

Proof -

Extra information - As you can see jordan didnt even bother to talk to me about it, lazy handling of the situation

Vito Corleone
Offline
Junior Boarder
Godfather
Posts: 204
Thanks received: 16
Karma: -4

The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302927

Hello ThatMeerKat after speaking with Jordan Johnston we have reached a conclusion. Today we will be denying your appeal because of the following.

You broke 2.1 (Random Deathmatch) When I or another staff member is  dealing with someone up I do not want someone to kill the person I am speaking to. This annoys my self and sometimes the person I am speaking to. Because I was there I saw exactly what happened and this helped in my judgement.

-Administrator of Semi Serious Roleplay

deleted#1111
Offline
Diamond Boarder
Posts: 3816
Thanks received: 454
Karma: -11

Former Admin on DarkRP
Former Bunny Hop Admin
Former #5 Top poster

Last Edit: 8 years 7 months ago by deleted#1111.

The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302930

You clearly killed him while he was being physgunned.That was still rdm but jail wasn't needed.	Holly Banker Offline Diamond Boarder Posts: 3622 Thanks received: 724 Karma: 29
Ex SSRP Super Admin ExDeathrun Admin Ex Bhop Mod Ex TS3 Staff Ex Forum Secrion Moderator The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302931

That wasn't a valid RP reason to kill someone in the first place. In the same context, there isn't a specific rule for mass RDM, but there is one for regularly RDMing someone. However, despite this, I will let Aidan get back with his verdict.	UltraBagel Offline Senior Boarder Posts: 515 Thanks received: 61 Karma: -1
The topic has been locked. The following user(s) said Thank You: deleted#1111

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302935

UltraBagel wrote: That wasn't a valid RP reason to kill someone in the first place. In the same context, there isn't a specific rule for mass RDM, but there is one for regularly RDMing someone. However, despite this, I will let Aidan get back with his verdict. Actually being stun sticked by someone is a valid rp reason to kill them.	Vito Corleone Offline Junior Boarder Godfather Posts: 204 Thanks received: 16 Karma: -4
The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302936

Bluehaze wrote:

UltraBagel wrote:

That wasn't a valid RP reason to kill someone in the first place. In the same context, there isn't a specific rule for mass RDM, but there is one for regularly RDMing someone. However, despite this, I will let Aidan get back with his verdict.

Actually being stun sticked by someone is a valid rp reason to kill them.

If he is getting physgunned by an admin, that will be rdm.

Holly Banker
Offline
Diamond Boarder
Posts: 3622
Thanks received: 724
Karma: 29

Ex SSRP Super Admin
ExDeathrun Admin
Ex Bhop Mod
Ex TS3 Staff
Ex Forum Secrion Moderator

The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302937

Holly Banker wrote:

Bluehaze wrote:

UltraBagel wrote:

That wasn't a valid RP reason to kill someone in the first place. In the same context, there isn't a specific rule for mass RDM, but there is one for regularly RDMing someone. However, despite this, I will let Aidan get back with his verdict.

Actually being stun sticked by someone is a valid rp reason to kill them.

If he is getting physgunned by an admin, that will be rdm.

What's random about the kill, the player stun sticked me regardless of what the admin is doing which gives me a clear valid reason to kill him.

Vito Corleone
Offline
Junior Boarder
Godfather
Posts: 204
Thanks received: 16
Karma: -4

The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302938

Bluehaze wrote:

Holly Banker wrote:

Bluehaze wrote:

UltraBagel wrote:

That wasn't a valid RP reason to kill someone in the first place. In the same context, there isn't a specific rule for mass RDM, but there is one for regularly RDMing someone. However, despite this, I will let Aidan get back with his verdict.

Actually being stun sticked by someone is a valid rp reason to kill them.

If he is getting physgunned by an admin, that will be rdm.

What's random about the kill, the player stun sticked me regardless of what the admin is doing which gives me a clear valid reason to kill him.

He was being dealt with already.You clearly ruinned the sit there, but as i said jail wasn't needed.

Holly Banker
Offline
Diamond Boarder
Posts: 3622
Thanks received: 724
Karma: 29

Ex SSRP Super Admin
ExDeathrun Admin
Ex Bhop Mod
Ex TS3 Staff
Ex Forum Secrion Moderator

The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302939

Alright, This happened right in front of myself and Aidan. The guard was Mass Stun stick abusing so as we were physics gunning him to a roof, You said it had to be done. When in reality, You knew we had him for a reason but you still proceeded to kill him buddy, Now you know well enough that if you see someone getting brought up to the air/roof by a admin he's done something wrong or he's out of roleplay, But you still proceed to kill him. Now, I apologise sincerely about myself not speaking to you about the rule as much as you liked me to, I just said the stuff that I needed to say due to you knowing that it was RDM (Random Deathmatch) As I explained to you that it wasn't a valid reason to kill him.

Edit: And to the jail question, Yeah maybe I am a strict person dealing out with firm punishments but hey that's me and it does make people read the rules and know they can't do it again.

Jordz
Offline
Marvelous Boarder
More Scottish than Aidan himself
Posts: 10795
Thanks received: 2237
Karma: 129

Last Edit: 8 years 7 months ago by Jordz.

The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302940

Jordan Johnston wrote:

Alright, This happened right in front of myself and Aidan. The guard was Mass Stun stick abusing so as we were physics gunning him to a roof, You said it had to be done. When in reality, You knew we had him for a reason but you still proceeded to kill him buddy, Now you know well enough that if you see someone getting brought up to the air/roof by a admin he's done something wrong or he's out of roleplay, But you still proceed to kill him. Now, I apologise sincerely about myself not speaking to you about the rule as much as you liked me to, I just said the stuff that I needed to say due to you knowing that it was RDM (Random Deathmatch) As I explained to you that it wasn't a valid reason to kill him.

RDM is random deathmatch, the fact there was nothing random about the kill it was killing someone who had attacked me means that the random element has been removed. This makes the "RDM" warning invalid.

Now if you'd warned me for "killing an out of rp player" even though I dont think that rule exists, then at least it would have made sense to the situation.

Vito Corleone
Offline
Junior Boarder
Godfather
Posts: 204
Thanks received: 16
Karma: -4

The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302941

It was still Random deathmatch as you never had to kill him if he was in trouble by administrators.	Jordz Offline Marvelous Boarder More Scottish than Aidan himself Posts: 10795 Thanks received: 2237 Karma: 129
The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302942

Bluehaze wrote:

Jordan Johnston wrote:

Alright, This happened right in front of myself and Aidan. The guard was Mass Stun stick abusing so as we were physics gunning him to a roof, You said it had to be done. When in reality, You knew we had him for a reason but you still proceeded to kill him buddy, Now you know well enough that if you see someone getting brought up to the air/roof by a admin he's done something wrong or he's out of roleplay, But you still proceed to kill him. Now, I apologise sincerely about myself not speaking to you about the rule as much as you liked me to, I just said the stuff that I needed to say due to you knowing that it was RDM (Random Deathmatch) As I explained to you that it wasn't a valid reason to kill him.

RDM is random deathmatch, the fact there was nothing random about the kill it was killing someone who had attacked me means that the random element has been removed. This makes the "RDM" warning invalid.

Now if you'd warned me for "killing an out of rp player" even though I dont think that rule exists, then at least it would have made sense to the situation.

He was rulebreaking by stun sticking without a reason.While he was being dealt with, you killed him.You can't rp in sits, but you clearly did there.

Holly Banker
Offline
Diamond Boarder
Posts: 3622
Thanks received: 724
Karma: 29

Ex SSRP Super Admin
ExDeathrun Admin
Ex Bhop Mod
Ex TS3 Staff
Ex Forum Secrion Moderator

The topic has been locked.

Un-warn Appeal 8 years 7 months ago #302944

Holly Banker wrote:

Bluehaze wrote:

Jordan Johnston wrote:

Alright, This happened right in front of myself and Aidan. The guard was Mass Stun stick abusing so as we were physics gunning him to a roof, You said it had to be done. When in reality, You knew we had him for a reason but you still proceeded to kill him buddy, Now you know well enough that if you see someone getting brought up to the air/roof by a admin he's done something wrong or he's out of roleplay, But you still proceed to kill him. Now, I apologise sincerely about myself not speaking to you about the rule as much as you liked me to, I just said the stuff that I needed to say due to you knowing that it was RDM (Random Deathmatch) As I explained to you that it wasn't a valid reason to kill him.

RDM is random deathmatch, the fact there was nothing random about the kill it was killing someone who had attacked me means that the random element has been removed. This makes the "RDM" warning invalid.

Now if you'd warned me for "killing an out of rp player" even though I dont think that rule exists, then at least it would have made sense to the situation.

He was rulebreaking by stun sticking without a reason.While he was being dealt with, you killed him.You can't rp in sits, but you clearly did there.

"You can't rp in sits" makes sense, wanr me for "rp'ing a sit".... so why was the warning for a "random deathmatch" when it wasn't random at all?