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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176071

Name - What is your ingame name? _Demote
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID? STEAM_0:1:115044203
Admins name - Who banned you/who might it be? ToeRag2k16
Reason - What is/might be the reason that you got banned? Mass CDM
Server - What server did you get banned from? DarkRP [1]
Time - How long were you banned for? 3 weeks 1 hour
Story - What happend? I intentianally cdm'ed 2 people. I got warned and I went along driving. Then I lagged when I was in downtown and I accidentally cdm'd 2 more people. So I should not be banned and It was only 2 people not Mass CDM.
Proof - Any proof on a video/screenshot that clearly show what happened? No, why do you admins expect us to record 24/7. And I think admins should show players proof of why they were being banned unless players were intentianally doing it. Otherwise, That is being bias and I will not stand for it.
Extra information - Any thing you think may be relevant to your ban. I feel like I was being bullied and abused by Morgan, ToeRag, and salty. Because they would say that I cdmed 5 people then it turned to 6 people. then 4 people. Then I asked them to read my logs to me and they said no and their reason was that they were staff, I deserve to know what I did. You can not take those rights away from me. And they said I couldn't drive ever again but they deny it. Again, they cant take my rights away and I will not stand for it. I say we get rid of them and hire some good admins who actually do their job instead of these duds. The funny thing is, they didnt let me explain my side of the story.
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176072

2+ of anything can be counted as Mass.
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176073

Stratiic wrote:
2+ of anything can be counted as Mass.
But salty and Toe said 3+
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176074

i only said you mass cdm never said numbers
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176075

_Demote wrote:
Stratiic wrote:
2+ of anything can be counted as Mass.
But salty and Toe said 3+

I was Admin for 3 months and all the way through my time as Admin I knew Mass as 2+

Hey, maybe I was wrong. Feel free to correct me anyone who is a more expeirienced staff member.
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176077

Alfred Salty wrote:
i only said you mass cdm never said numbers
You told me 3, now stop making shit up without proof! This is my story and not yours! gtfo
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176079

Stratiic wrote:
_Demote wrote:
Stratiic wrote:
2+ of anything can be counted as Mass.
But salty and Toe said 3+

I was Admin for 3 months and all the way through my time as Admin I knew Mass as 2+

Hey, maybe I was wrong. Feel free to correct me anyone who is a more expeirienced staff member.
There's no exact number of "mass" in the staff team really, people can take mass for 2+ kills and some 5+ kills.
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176081

_Demote wrote:
Alfred Salty wrote:
i only said you mass cdm never said numbers
You told me 3, now stop making shit up without proof! This is my story and not yours! gtfo

You need to calm down, and look at yourself. You're being very hypocritical right now. Accusing someone of "making shit up without proof" whilst not providing proof yourself is a far stretch buddy. Sounds like you might be the one who is making shit up as far as we're all concerned.

No proof= Obvious denial unless admission by the accused.

It's pretty straight forward, it's not biased at all. The staff members have put effort and dedication into the servers, if someone got them demoted without any valid proof, that staff member would be distraught.

Please, save yourself from looking stupid and check what your saying.
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176082

_Demote wrote:
Alfred Salty wrote:
i only said you mass cdm never said numbers
You told me 3, now stop making shit up without proof! This is my story and not yours! gtfo
making shit up? i have a admin and a superadmin that can aprove of this
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_Demote's Ban Appeal 9 years 3 months ago #176083

Hey _Demote,

I apologize if you feel me, toerag, and salty have bullied you in anyway, but this is not the case at all.

I was called in by you, as you asked for a Super Admin to hear over what had happened, you explained your story, toerag explained his. You had intentionally ran over for two people, for fun as you had said, but after being warned for it once or twice, you realized it wasn't funny.

After you had rammed 2 people intentionally as you had said, you went downtown around 30 seconds later, and ran over another 2 people, adding up to 4 total CDM's in a matter of 40 seconds.

Toerag before taking action checked the logs, and you had been warned 2 times for CDM, before the two intentional CDM's, as well as the 2 accidental CDM's, which occured because of lag as you had explained multiple times.

After all of this, you were pulled into an admin sit by Toerag, you explained what happened and were banned. You then came onto the teamspeak, and we talked about it, we let you explain your story multiple times.

We were completely professional about the situation, we were explaining to you what you did wrong, but you didn't see how you lagging and ramming multiple people was your fault, we explained to you that it was your account, your player, your person, but you still continued to not co-operate after an in-depth analysis of what you did wrong.

I've talked to Toerag and decided to reduce your ban to 7 Days, as 3 weeks was a bit extreme. We hope these 5 days will allow you to realise what you did wrong, even though you might not have meant to lag, you still caused trouble and pain for a lot of people.

Everyone makes mistakes, and we understand you couldn't help that you lagged, but after being warned multiple times before hand you still were driving on the roads, even admitting to previous experiences of lag while driving that day, being told to stop driving before your ban.
Proof - Any proof on a video/screenshot that clearly show what happened? No, why do you admins expect us to record 24/7.
As for this, we ask for proof in appeals and ban requests to prove their claims, if a player reports a staff or player for RDM, but provides no proof, how do we know he RDM'd?
Because they would say that I cdmed 5 people then it turned to 6 people. then 4 people.
Not the case, you kept changing your story multiple times adding one or two more people randomly to your story, and then removing them from the story in other explanations.
Then I asked them to read my logs to me and they said no and their reason was that they were staff, I deserve to know what I did.
Logs are not permanent for staff, if a player is killed in the logs when the staff checks the logs, that will be gone in around 6-10 minutes. Toerag explained how many people you killed in the admin sit before your were even banned.
_Demote wrote:
Alfred Salty wrote:
i only said you mass cdm never said numbers
You told me 3, now stop making shit up without proof! This is my story and not yours! gtfo

This was reflecting your attitude in the teamspeak our entire conversation, I even had to give you a 1 hour ban for harassment. There is no general rule for what "Mass" is, it's more common sense for the admins discretion.

We hope these 7 days will give you time to realize what you did wrong, and to stop driving when the admin told you in the first place, as I've said above, you were told to stop driving to avoid issues like the lag you experienced, resulting in running over 2 more people.

I've talked to Toerag and your ban appeal has been accepted, and reduced to 7 days.
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