TOPIC: [SSRP] Micky's Punishment Appeal

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sorIe wrote:

A Good Pianist wrote:
why dont i get it back tho >.<

UNBAN MICKY

I don't get it based on what he got asked to stop ?

Suken wrote:
Based on the fact that he mentioned a TOU banned member. It's complete bs tho because the TOU clearly states that you shouldn't discuss objectionable content, aka discussing his ban but not the person himself

sorIe wrote: you forgot the 3rd cancer

This rule has been the gateway to so many false punishments that are handed out. Clarky, you aren't allowed to pick and choose scenarios that you can break a rule, and you especially aren't allowed to modify the rule whenever you want. Both this punishment and the 12 hour ban that Joshua received are ridiculous.

The basic point is these rules are only used when its in the persons favor. Micky didn't mention no bans or the reasoning behind it. He only posted a screenshot that was kinda funny, Along with this it didn't break TOU. If its okay to constantly talk about people like Para, Tyler and many others its no different for Micky.

Clarky wrote: I'd rather this be public, it is not only I that requires a good reasoning behind these issues. Think of it as a more practical way of spreading the message to everyone affected and not just me.

EMP wrote:

micky dont deserve this wtf

Sally wrote: Lmao I get it now, the TOU has bad wording is why everyone got confused, literally had to read it about 10 times. It'd be great if they added a and instead of a comma after the word profane to show that discussion is part of the list.
Bad wording got be warned,

EDIT: Is discussion apart of the list?

At least you ain't linking para's penis

Tamaninja wrote: eipus

Sally wrote: If we're to go off of English, I think everyone is misunderstanding the rule.
If you look at the TOU, it is written as though the word "discussion" is part of the list due to a comma coming after profane, if we're to have it so that discussion was not part of the list, it should be written as "and profane discussion...". This would make a lot more sense to everyone and this whole drama could've been avoided.

Anyways, if the word "discussion" is part of the list, it'd just give the other words in the list no meaning whatsoever.
Going off of this logic, I and many others have, I imagine that the reasoning behind the word "discussion" is placed at the end is to allow us to know that the list ends at the word profane and allow us to know that discussion is allowed, but just not anything violating the TOU, or at least this is what written English tells me.

If we're not allowed to discuss the user's ban, that'd be completely understandable, but if people are saying words like "Free Jusu", I wouldn't call that a discussion.

We did not talk about what Jusu did, why he did it, how he did it etc, I at most sent a screenshot of a joke we had, I don't see how this harms anyone or breaks TOU.

Hard to give reasons for dumb rules so just say dumb things like "staff are right even when they are wrong" instead

its micky so hes automatically in the wrong and imo just get rid of him

Micky wrote: I understand that, I meant actually having a voice discussion because it's so much better to get your reasoning across and in the outcome we will of course mention everything that was spoken about. Anyhow, I have been in touch with Richard and left him a message.

Clarky wrote: It's much easier to remember what you're saying as well as having a point of reference in written form, but to be fair I can see how the rule works for and against you due to how it was written.

The main concern for me was that you ignored two of my verbal warnings in OOC to those who kept the discussion going on because it was starting to get out of hand IMO, which in the SSRP rules you should listen to the staff's final word. Sure you might've missed those messages or ignored them, but that is mainly why I handed out the punishment because I don't really punish people for this sort of stuff at all and always tried to defuse the discussion or whatever is going on before handing out mutes and what not.