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[SSRP] twardy's Ban Appeal 6 years 4 months ago #952867

Name - twardy
STEAM-ID - STEAM_1:1:97893948
Admins Name - SkeletonWarrior
Reason - Well I broke 2 rules discrimination pushed it over the top.
Server - SSRP 1
Time - 1 day
Story - Revenge RDM'd some kid who kept breaking nlr and trying to arrest me. Big man skeleton picks me up, asks me why I killed him, I said because hes a F*****. Then he says "I'm banning you for 1 day for discrimination"
Proof - N/A
Extra Information - During this whole thing I had 0 recent punishments. Would have been better to jail be or ban me for an hour, but at the point of 1 day with 0 recents breaking 3 petite rules is pathetic tbh. I think you made the ban personal because you kept telling me "Oh twardy your such a minge compared to what u used to be" Like i'm just havin fun on a server thats dying with nothing to do.

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Last Edit: 6 years 4 months ago by twardy.

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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952868

Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag*" and wtf, i mass rdmed someone like 10+ times atleast, and got 10 minute jail. I think i'm the one who caused more trouble here. Twardy calling someone "fag*" probably didnt offend anyone else than Skeleton	James Stone Offline Gold Boarder Life is a ﬁght, but not everyone’s a ﬁghter. Posts: 2096 Thanks received: 294 Karma: -6
(OOC) Clarky: rdm me once more and youll be seeing yourself perma banned If life is nothing but a bitch, I hope my dick is big enough To fuck the whole world Last Edit: 6 years 4 months ago by James Stone. The topic has been locked. The following user(s) said Thank You: MsMs, twardy

[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952869

Skeleton made the right decision, wait out the 1 day ban and stop rulebreaking	Windows Offline Diamond Boarder Life isn’t a destination, it’s hell Posts: 3989 Thanks received: 963 Karma: -5
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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952871

If you have 0 recents and only said that then a warning or a mute would be more fitting for this	Kyber Offline Legendary Member Something original and funny Posts: 8485 Thanks received: 2620 Karma: -125
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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952872

James Stone wrote: Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***" The policy is against any kind of discrimination, this includes homophobia	Kyber Offline Legendary Member Something original and funny Posts: 8485 Thanks received: 2620 Karma: -125
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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952875

Kyber wrote:

James Stone wrote:

Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***"

The policy is against any kind of discrimination, this includes homophobia

Not like Ik the kid personally is it. If you go on a server like this you gotta expect salty kids like me to say some random offensive word to express my salt. Its not like I individually picked taht word to offend him on a homophobic level.

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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952876

Kyber wrote: James Stone wrote: Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***" The policy is against any kind of discrimination, this includes homophobia added screenshot to my answer	James Stone Offline Gold Boarder Life is a ﬁght, but not everyone’s a ﬁghter. Posts: 2096 Thanks received: 294 Karma: -6
(OOC) Clarky: rdm me once more and youll be seeing yourself perma banned If life is nothing but a bitch, I hope my dick is big enough To fuck the whole world The topic has been locked.

[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952881

James Stone wrote: Kyber wrote: James Stone wrote: Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***" The policy is against any kind of discrimination, this includes homophobia added screenshot to my answer Get mega oofed Anyway this is ridiculous just mute him fgs	Markus Offline Legendary Member Posts: 5349 Thanks received: 1634 Karma: -337
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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952882

James Stone wrote:

Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***"

https://i.gyazo.com/6bd2685ee7787a80e1224b1f64a0243a.a

and wtf, i mass rdmed someone like 10+ times atleast, and got 10 minute jail. I think i'm the one who caused more trouble here. Twardy calling someone "fag***" probably didnt offend anyone else than Skeleton

Tyler Durden wrote:

Recently we started to crack down on discrimination within the community, this post aims to clarify our intentions further and to hopefully resolve some issues that you may see with the recent enforcement of rules.

So, it's evident that the topic at hand has turned out to be very polarizing and people have been quite vocal. One common misconception seems to be that we're only cracking down on certain words and certain behaviors but this is not the case. We're aiming to in general be more strict on all forms of discrimination and harassment within the community in order to make for a less toxic and friendlier community. If you have criticisms of this or arguments to put forth about enforcement of rules within the community feel free to voice these concerns by making suggestions or by talking to the staff about ideas for how things could be changed or improved rather than instantly resorting to bad behavior as a sign of revolt.

To end this post I'd also like to inform all staff and users that the ethos as it has been brought up recently in contrast to the current enforcement, is not here to protect people that display hostile or hurtful behavior knowingly but rather to protect users that want to contribute but are struggling with certain aspects of the rules. The moment a user resorts to harassing, disrespecting or discriminating they are no longer under protection of the ethos hence giving way for the current enforcement.

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/general-d...acism-discrimination

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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952883

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

James Stone wrote:

Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***"

and wtf, i mass rdmed someone like 10+ times atleast, and got 10 minute jail. I think i'm the one who caused more trouble here. Twardy calling someone "fag***" probably didnt offend anyone else than Skeleton

Tyler Durden wrote:

Recently we started to crack down on discrimination within the community, this post aims to clarify our intentions further and to hopefully resolve some issues that you may see with the recent enforcement of rules.

So, it's evident that the topic at hand has turned out to be very polarizing and people have been quite vocal. One common misconception seems to be that we're only cracking down on certain words and certain behaviors but this is not the case. We're aiming to in general be more strict on all forms of discrimination and harassment within the community in order to make for a less toxic and friendlier community. If you have criticisms of this or arguments to put forth about enforcement of rules within the community feel free to voice these concerns by making suggestions or by talking to the staff about ideas for how things could be changed or improved rather than instantly resorting to bad behavior as a sign of revolt.

To end this post I'd also like to inform all staff and users that the ethos as it has been brought up recently in contrast to the current enforcement, is not here to protect people that display hostile or hurtful behavior knowingly but rather to protect users that want to contribute but are struggling with certain aspects of the rules. The moment a user resorts to harassing, disrespecting or discriminating they are no longer under protection of the ethos hence giving way for the current enforcement.

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/general-d...acism-discrimination

too much text soz

tbh no wonder ppl resigned and started leavin,
staff taking everything way too seriously. Rules word by word without any use of common sense. 24 hours is pretty harsh

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To fuck the whole world

Last Edit: 6 years 4 months ago by James Stone.

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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952885

I'll handle this.	dankek Offline Banned Legendary Retard Posts: 2400 Thanks received: 997 Karma: 23
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[SSRP] twardy's Ban Appeal 6 years 4 months ago #952887

	0yc37xrk6m Offline Adept Boarder Posts: 6727 Thanks received: 1994 Karma: 44
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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952888

#DemoteStaffThatDon'tHaveCommonSenseOkTy

Like when SyStem was a staff, he went crazy on me trying to tell me that i shouldn't walk on streets as AoD or at spawn area, chatting with people etc. That's a good example of people taking rules way too strictly, "THAT JOB SHOULD NOT RP" "IT RUINS OTHERS RP" it didn't harm anyone, just gave people something to do and laugh about when we had fun around spawn. Common sense to staff members should be a requirement.

Even if Twardy called someone a fag***, obviously it wasn't a right thing to do but did you even ask the other person was he even offended by that? Is ZARP really turning into family friendly community? Anywhere else on the internet its quite normal language to use shit like that. If someone gets offended by it maybe they shouldn't even use internet.

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Last Edit: 6 years 4 months ago by James Stone.

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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952890

James Stone wrote:

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

James Stone wrote:

Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***"

and wtf, i mass rdmed someone like 10+ times atleast, and got 10 minute jail. I think i'm the one who caused more trouble here. Twardy calling someone "fag***" probably didnt offend anyone else than Skeleton

Tyler Durden wrote:

Recently we started to crack down on discrimination within the community, this post aims to clarify our intentions further and to hopefully resolve some issues that you may see with the recent enforcement of rules.

So, it's evident that the topic at hand has turned out to be very polarizing and people have been quite vocal. One common misconception seems to be that we're only cracking down on certain words and certain behaviors but this is not the case. We're aiming to in general be more strict on all forms of discrimination and harassment within the community in order to make for a less toxic and friendlier community. If you have criticisms of this or arguments to put forth about enforcement of rules within the community feel free to voice these concerns by making suggestions or by talking to the staff about ideas for how things could be changed or improved rather than instantly resorting to bad behavior as a sign of revolt.

To end this post I'd also like to inform all staff and users that the ethos as it has been brought up recently in contrast to the current enforcement, is not here to protect people that display hostile or hurtful behavior knowingly but rather to protect users that want to contribute but are struggling with certain aspects of the rules. The moment a user resorts to harassing, disrespecting or discriminating they are no longer under protection of the ethos hence giving way for the current enforcement.

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/general-d...acism-discrimination

too much text soz

tbh no wonder ppl resigned and started leavin,
staff taking everything way too seriously. Rules word by word without any use of common sense. 24 hours is pretty harsh

Tbh Idk anyone whos got a ban for that word. Anyways "Making it a less toxic more friendlier comunity" Your basically gonna have to ban 98% of the server tbh theres always gonna be toxics.

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Last Edit: 6 years 4 months ago by twardy.

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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952893

twardy wrote:

James Stone wrote:

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

James Stone wrote:

Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***"

and wtf, i mass rdmed someone like 10+ times atleast, and got 10 minute jail. I think i'm the one who caused more trouble here. Twardy calling someone "fag***" probably didnt offend anyone else than Skeleton

Tyler Durden wrote:

Recently we started to crack down on discrimination within the community, this post aims to clarify our intentions further and to hopefully resolve some issues that you may see with the recent enforcement of rules.

So, it's evident that the topic at hand has turned out to be very polarizing and people have been quite vocal. One common misconception seems to be that we're only cracking down on certain words and certain behaviors but this is not the case. We're aiming to in general be more strict on all forms of discrimination and harassment within the community in order to make for a less toxic and friendlier community. If you have criticisms of this or arguments to put forth about enforcement of rules within the community feel free to voice these concerns by making suggestions or by talking to the staff about ideas for how things could be changed or improved rather than instantly resorting to bad behavior as a sign of revolt.

To end this post I'd also like to inform all staff and users that the ethos as it has been brought up recently in contrast to the current enforcement, is not here to protect people that display hostile or hurtful behavior knowingly but rather to protect users that want to contribute but are struggling with certain aspects of the rules. The moment a user resorts to harassing, disrespecting or discriminating they are no longer under protection of the ethos hence giving way for the current enforcement.

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/general-d...acism-discrimination

too much text soz

tbh no wonder ppl resigned and started leavin,
staff taking everything way too seriously. Rules word by word without any use of common sense. 24 hours is pretty harsh

Tbh Idk anyone whos got a ban for that word. Anyways "Making it a less toxic more friendlier comunity" Your basically gonna have to ban 98% of the server tbh

You weren’t banned just for the discrimination, you also broke 2 other rules which added up on your punishment making it a 1 day ban. If you’re thinkin that 98% of the server should be banned then provide sufficient proof of it to a staff member or report it on the forums

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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952895

Windows wrote:

twardy wrote:

James Stone wrote:

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

James Stone wrote:

Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***"

and wtf, i mass rdmed someone like 10+ times atleast, and got 10 minute jail. I think i'm the one who caused more trouble here. Twardy calling someone "fag***" probably didnt offend anyone else than Skeleton

Tyler Durden wrote:

Recently we started to crack down on discrimination within the community, this post aims to clarify our intentions further and to hopefully resolve some issues that you may see with the recent enforcement of rules.

So, it's evident that the topic at hand has turned out to be very polarizing and people have been quite vocal. One common misconception seems to be that we're only cracking down on certain words and certain behaviors but this is not the case. We're aiming to in general be more strict on all forms of discrimination and harassment within the community in order to make for a less toxic and friendlier community. If you have criticisms of this or arguments to put forth about enforcement of rules within the community feel free to voice these concerns by making suggestions or by talking to the staff about ideas for how things could be changed or improved rather than instantly resorting to bad behavior as a sign of revolt.

To end this post I'd also like to inform all staff and users that the ethos as it has been brought up recently in contrast to the current enforcement, is not here to protect people that display hostile or hurtful behavior knowingly but rather to protect users that want to contribute but are struggling with certain aspects of the rules. The moment a user resorts to harassing, disrespecting or discriminating they are no longer under protection of the ethos hence giving way for the current enforcement.

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/general-d...acism-discrimination

too much text soz

tbh no wonder ppl resigned and started leavin,
staff taking everything way too seriously. Rules word by word without any use of common sense. 24 hours is pretty harsh

Tbh Idk anyone whos got a ban for that word. Anyways "Making it a less toxic more friendlier comunity" Your basically gonna have to ban 98% of the server tbh

You weren’t banned just for the discrimination, you also broke 2 other rules which added up on your punishment making it a 1 day ban. If you’re thinkin that 98% of the server should be banned then provide sufficient proof of it to a staff member or report it on the forums

I'm not saying i'm against discrimination. If I said it in such a way it was offensive then I would expect a ban. Friends greet eatchother with names like this it's just a joke. I didn't call the guy the name to offend him in fact he wasn't even there. I'm just saying sticks and stones.

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Last Edit: 6 years 4 months ago by twardy.

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[SSR 6 years 4 months ago #952905

twardy wrote:

Windows wrote:

twardy wrote:

James Stone wrote:

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

James Stone wrote:

Pretty sure Raeker said that there is only 0 tolerance on Racism, not on discrimination like saying "fag***"

and wtf, i mass rdmed someone like 10+ times atleast, and got 10 minute jail. I think i'm the one who caused more trouble here. Twardy calling someone "fag***" probably didnt offend anyone else than Skeleton

Tyler Durden wrote:

Recently we started to crack down on discrimination within the community, this post aims to clarify our intentions further and to hopefully resolve some issues that you may see with the recent enforcement of rules.

So, it's evident that the topic at hand has turned out to be very polarizing and people have been quite vocal. One common misconception seems to be that we're only cracking down on certain words and certain behaviors but this is not the case. We're aiming to in general be more strict on all forms of discrimination and harassment within the community in order to make for a less toxic and friendlier community. If you have criticisms of this or arguments to put forth about enforcement of rules within the community feel free to voice these concerns by making suggestions or by talking to the staff about ideas for how things could be changed or improved rather than instantly resorting to bad behavior as a sign of revolt.

To end this post I'd also like to inform all staff and users that the ethos as it has been brought up recently in contrast to the current enforcement, is not here to protect people that display hostile or hurtful behavior knowingly but rather to protect users that want to contribute but are struggling with certain aspects of the rules. The moment a user resorts to harassing, disrespecting or discriminating they are no longer under protection of the ethos hence giving way for the current enforcement.

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/general-d...acism-discrimination

too much text soz

tbh no wonder ppl resigned and started leavin,
staff taking everything way too seriously. Rules word by word without any use of common sense. 24 hours is pretty harsh

Tbh Idk anyone whos got a ban for that word. Anyways "Making it a less toxic more friendlier comunity" Your basically gonna have to ban 98% of the server tbh

You weren’t banned just for the discrimination, you also broke 2 other rules which added up on your punishment making it a 1 day ban. If you’re thinkin that 98% of the server should be banned then provide sufficient proof of it to a staff member or report it on the forums

I'm not saying i'm against discrimination. Friends greet eatchother with names like this it's just a joke. I didn't call the guy the name to offend him in fact he wasn't even there. I'm just saying sticks and stones.

Even if friends greet eachother that way doesn’t mean that a homosexual person wont get offended by that since they prefer to be called homosexual or gay instead of f*****

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[SSRP] twardy's Ban Appeal 6 years 4 months ago #952907

After talking to Skeletonwarrior, reading the appeal and it's replies, I've decided to deny this appeal. The reason being, you acknowledge you broke the rules intentionally so any argument of a 1 day ban being harsh is false. I would like to add, you had a recent from Wizard for NLR, so you do not deserve being let go. There's also a zero tolerance to discrimination rule, which includes actions and words that are discriminating towards others.
Tyler Durden wrote:

One common misconception seems to be that we're only cracking down on certain words and certain behaviors but this is not the case. We're aiming to in general be more strict on all forms of discrimination and harassment within the community in order to make for a less toxic and friendlier community. If you have criticisms of this or arguments to put forth about enforcement of rules within the community feel free to voice these concerns by making suggestions or by talking to the staff about ideas for how things could be changed or improved rather than instantly resorting to bad behavior as a sign of revolt.
To end this post I'd also like to inform all staff and users that the ethos as it has been brought up recently in contrast to the current enforcement, is not here to protect people that display hostile or hurtful behavior knowingly but rather to protect users that want to contribute but are struggling with certain aspects of the rules.

In conclusion, consider this:
:denied:

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[SSRP] twardy's Ban Appeal 6 years 4 months ago #953291

What I said in my discussion with James Stone is true. Whenever we speak of the "zero tolerance policy" we explicitly mean it in regards to racism. Obviously Tyler's post still holds some merit, however at core value it is factually wrong. You cannot be banned instantly for discrimination like you can be for racism - both are things that will hopefully be changed soon.

Regardless Twardy as you broke other rules in this situation you were still rightfully banned. That there's not a zero tolerance on discrimination does not mean that Tyler was wrong in saying that there are still harsher punishments for it.