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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930709

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Joining spacers without permission + Kicking other staff members
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Most of the times I join without permission when I know I'm not interrupting something and/or hear something I shouldn't have. For example, a spacer that has a CM and a bunch of random people in it I wouldn't ask for permission to join. Another example is when Aek and Annie are in a channel as every time I asked for permission I was instantly allowed to join so I assumed that I would be allowed to join without permission. The only time in the past 30 days that I Joined a spacer and didn't know if I would be allowed was at the end of the SSRP admin meeting when Skeleton and Ashur were in a spacer but I mainly did that because I suspected them of breaking NDA (and I was right). If there are any other time I joined a spacer without permission I'm extremely sorry for it and I didn't mean it in a bad way. I do not think an official warning is needed in this scenario as a talking to would have been enough. Yes, I was spoken to by Aek to stop it but after he spoke to me I didn't repeat ever since. As for kicking other team speak staff I also believe it's unfair to give me an official for it when Latram and Luke and even Xnator have done it in a bigger scale than me (Xnator even banning people for "mass genocide is needed" and they weren't even spoken to. I do not think kicking other team speak staff should be considered bad in the first place but I digress.
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I believe a simply talking to after the meeting would have been more fit for this scenario, I promise not to repeat these actions again.
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930711

Im disappointed :>
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930712

Edit: Rephrasing to make more sense

So according to my knowledge you have been talked to about it multiple times. Considering this why would a talk to make you change your behavior if the others indeed have not managed to do that
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930713

You also kept joining a spacer that me Luke and latram were in without permission and when I said you didn’t get permission leave, you instead moved me out.

I think this is justified, you was told you aren’t allowed to do it

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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930715

I've seen you do this quite a few times but I feel an official is harsh, but I still see where the other teamspeak staff are coming from :neutralsp:
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930716

You do this alot, also your recent attitude doesn't make it better
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930717

LonelyDodo wrote:
I understand you have been talked to about this issue many times before about it. What would make this time any different in your opinion?
The only times I've been talked to about this was in a way at least I thought was jokingly and no one ever had a serious talk with me about the matter.
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930719

Sada. wrote:
You also kept joining a spacer that me Luke and latram were in without permission and when I said you didn’t get permission leave, you instead moved me out.

I think this is justified, you was told you aren’t allowed to do it

:minussp:
I needed to talk to Latram about an appeal and it was kind of urgent, I moved you out because you weren't letting me and Latram talk at all and you were basically just shouting
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930721

Nick0GR wrote:
Xnator even banning people for "mass genocide is needed"

"Genocide is fun" thank you very much.
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930722

Nick0GR wrote:
Sada. wrote:
You also kept joining a spacer that me Luke and latram were in without permission and when I said you didn’t get permission leave, you instead moved me out.

I think this is justified, you was told you aren’t allowed to do it

:minussp:
I needed to talk to Latram about an appeal and it was kind of urgent, I moved you out because you weren't letting me and Latram talk at all and you were basically just shouting
Surely it couldn't have been that Urgent, Besides Latrams a nice person you could've just asked for perms to join

EDIT:
I believe a simply talking to after the meeting would have been more fit for this scenario, I promise not to repeat these actions again.
If I'm correct you've been spoken to multiple times and I've heard a couple times people saying to you "Stop kicking other ts staff" besides, If you've been spoken about it in the past You should have known not to do it again.
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930724

something similar has happened before between us but you seem very apologetic so i wouldn't mind this getting accepted.

goodluck!
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930725

:plussp:
nick did nothing wrong remove this warning rigggght now
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930726

Box0 wrote:
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Sada. wrote:
You also kept joining a spacer that me Luke and latram were in without permission and when I said you didn’t get permission leave, you instead moved me out.

I think this is justified, you was told you aren’t allowed to do it

:minussp:
I needed to talk to Latram about an appeal and it was kind of urgent, I moved you out because you weren't letting me and Latram talk at all and you were basically just shouting
Surely it couldn't have been that Urgent, Besides Latrams a nice person you could've just asked for perms to join
I mean a ban that is expiring the more you wait is something I would consider urgent, also Latram being a nice person has nothing to do with this, indeed I could have asked for permission but like I said it was urgent. Even so, that is a one-time offense it still would be too harsh to give an official for it.
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930727

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LonelyDodo wrote:
I understand you have been talked to about this issue many times before about it. What would make this time any different in your opinion?
The only times I've been talked to about this was in a way at least I thought was jokingly and no one ever had a serious talk with me about the matter.

I can not confirm nor deny this, but if this is indeed true I would have no problem in having the punishment changed to a simple talk to
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930729

Blocked me on discord lol :minussp:
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930730

This has been a consistent issue and one i'm not looking forward to talk about. So many times have you joined my spacer without permission and I've even told you to stop. Some of the times you've kicked me from the TeamSpeak and i've spoken to you about that in the past. Sorry but you need to consider this isn't a TeamSpeak you can just do what you want in. I suggest improving on these as you definitely need to understand what you did wrong.
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930733

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Blocked me on discord lol :minussp:
You were constantly adding me to groups with Kyber for no apparent reason and I told you to stop but you didn't, it's your fault, not mine.
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930734

Nick0GR wrote:
Box0 wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
Sada. wrote:
You also kept joining a spacer that me Luke and latram were in without permission and when I said you didn’t get permission leave, you instead moved me out.

I think this is justified, you was told you aren’t allowed to do it

:minussp:
I needed to talk to Latram about an appeal and it was kind of urgent, I moved you out because you weren't letting me and Latram talk at all and you were basically just shouting
Surely it couldn't have been that Urgent, Besides Latrams a nice person you could've just asked for perms to join
I mean a ban that is expiring the more you wait is something I would consider urgent, also Latram being a nice person has nothing to do with this, indeed I could have asked for permission but like I said it was urgent. Even so, that is a one-time offence it still would be too harsh to give an official for it.

So.. What you're saying is, It's so urgent you can't wait like... 10 minutes if even that? I mean ofc if it had like... 5 min before it expired then fine but tbf I think you should be more patient with these sort of things.

Genuinely this was a reasonable punishment due to the number of times you've been told to stop, and you continued, My advice, Be more patient :minussp:

EDIT: I have nothing against you but I can't want it removed because I like you, But you should really be more patient It wouldn't have been that Urgent that it required you to jump into a spacer w/o permission
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930738

Annie Montana wrote:
This has been a consistent issue and one i'm not looking forward to talk about. So many times have you joined my spacer without permission and I've even told you to stop. Some of the times you've kicked me from the TeamSpeak and i've spoken to you about that in the past. Sorry but you need to consider this isn't a TeamSpeak you can just do what you want in. I suggest improving on these as you definitely need to understand what you did wrong.
I never recall kicking you from team speak because I joined your spacer and you told me not to do it again, I do recall you telling me to stop joining your spacers but at the same time you had once told me it's ok to join your spacers without asking (could be someone else that told me but I am quite sure it was you)
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[TS3] Nick's Official Warning Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #930739

The power is really going to your head bru!
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