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[TTT aslay&warn Appeal]Lexed 7 years 2 months ago #903676

Miia wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Raeker wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Miia wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Raeker wrote:

LeXeDHie wrote:

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I don't understand Nick sometimes. Why should you not apologising enough for getting a perfectly valid warning be any reason to accept the appeal? We're not here to unwarn the people that act nice to us. Besides, according to Welcoming, it already detonated with clear smoke coming out before you began shooting.

already told Dodo maybe logs don’t saw that I shot?

According to your appeal you killed Welcoming, who's also the person that punished you. I'd say he would be more than capable to judge whether or not you shot after the grenade went off. The logs only show when the grenade has been thrown, not when it goes off.

I was never killed, nor did i say i was killed by Lex

So he saw you throw a grenade, shot you and then stopped? or was killed by someone else?

Right to clarify He nor I said that HE killed ME, Someone threw a Smoke of which then detonated and then he killed the person who threw it

But how do you know it detonated? It is impossible to see in the logs.

Me and many others have timed it and its around 5 seconds for EVERY grenade

I'm sorry but lets say i see someone throwing grenades at me but didn't get a chance to see what kind. You honestly expect me to wait 5 seconds to check before killing them?

Nobody would do

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[TTT aslay&warn Appeal]Lexed 7 years 2 months ago #903677

I have tried bringing up a clarification for the grenade rules but it always gets denied with a reason something like "it's clear enough how it is". I think it's time we address it properly	Nick0GR Offline Marvelous Boarder Posts: 10801 Thanks received: 3307 Karma: -113
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[TTT aslay&warn Appeal]Lexed 7 years 2 months ago #903682

Nick0GR wrote:

I have tried bringing up a clarification for the grenade rules but it always gets denied with a reason something like "it's clear enough how it is". I think it's time we address it properly

Given the current rules i see no reason why throwing a smoke at people should not be kosable. The only time smokes are mentioned is in invalid kos reasons in which it states:
- The player throws a discombulator/smoke grenade away from other players.

Now to me this implies that if you were to throw it towards someone then that would make it kosable.

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[TTT aslay&warn Appeal]Lexed 7 years 2 months ago #903685

Miia wrote:

Nick0GR wrote:

I have tried bringing up a clarification for the grenade rules but it always gets denied with a reason something like "it's clear enough how it is". I think it's time we address it properly

Given the current rules i see no reason why throwing a smoke at people should not be kosable. The only time smokes are mentioned is in invalid kos reasons in which it states:
- The player throws a discombulator/smoke grenade away from other players.

Now to me this implies that if you were to throw it towards someone then that would make it kosable.

Which is why it needs to be adressed

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[TTT aslay&warn Appeal]Lexed 7 years 2 months ago #903686

Miia wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Raeker wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Miia wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Raeker wrote:

LeXeDHie wrote:

Raeker wrote:

I don't understand Nick sometimes. Why should you not apologising enough for getting a perfectly valid warning be any reason to accept the appeal? We're not here to unwarn the people that act nice to us. Besides, according to Welcoming, it already detonated with clear smoke coming out before you began shooting.

already told Dodo maybe logs don’t saw that I shot?

According to your appeal you killed Welcoming, who's also the person that punished you. I'd say he would be more than capable to judge whether or not you shot after the grenade went off. The logs only show when the grenade has been thrown, not when it goes off.

I was never killed, nor did i say i was killed by Lex

So he saw you throw a grenade, shot you and then stopped? or was killed by someone else?

Right to clarify He nor I said that HE killed ME, Someone threw a Smoke of which then detonated and then he killed the person who threw it

But how do you know it detonated? It is impossible to see in the logs.

Me and many others have timed it and its around 5 seconds for EVERY grenade

I'm sorry but lets say i see someone throwing grenades at me but didn't get a chance to see what kind. You honestly expect me to wait 5 seconds to check before killing them?

According to the rules, throwing a smoke grenade is a perfectly fine act to do as an innocent, so yes you should wait that 5 seconds, which is annoying. I agree that this needs addressing even though I doubt anybody will care

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[TTT aslay&warn Appeal]Lexed 7 years 2 months ago #903689

_Eddie_ wrote:

Miia wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Raeker wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Miia wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Raeker wrote:

LeXeDHie wrote:

Raeker wrote:

I don't understand Nick sometimes. Why should you not apologising enough for getting a perfectly valid warning be any reason to accept the appeal? We're not here to unwarn the people that act nice to us. Besides, according to Welcoming, it already detonated with clear smoke coming out before you began shooting.

already told Dodo maybe logs don’t saw that I shot?

According to your appeal you killed Welcoming, who's also the person that punished you. I'd say he would be more than capable to judge whether or not you shot after the grenade went off. The logs only show when the grenade has been thrown, not when it goes off.

I was never killed, nor did i say i was killed by Lex

So he saw you throw a grenade, shot you and then stopped? or was killed by someone else?

Right to clarify He nor I said that HE killed ME, Someone threw a Smoke of which then detonated and then he killed the person who threw it

But how do you know it detonated? It is impossible to see in the logs.

Me and many others have timed it and its around 5 seconds for EVERY grenade

I'm sorry but lets say i see someone throwing grenades at me but didn't get a chance to see what kind. You honestly expect me to wait 5 seconds to check before killing them?

According to the rules, throwing a smoke grenade is a perfectly fine act to do as an innocent, so yes you should wait that 5 seconds, which is annoying. I agree that this needs addressing even though I doubt anybody will care

I would like to know which rules you are looking at. The way i see it if its not written in the rules that all players have access to then we should not be punishing for it.

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[TTT aslay&warn Appeal]Lexed 7 years 2 months ago #903690

Miia wrote:

_Eddie_ wrote:

Miia wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Raeker wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Miia wrote:

WelcomingComic2 wrote:

Raeker wrote:

LeXeDHie wrote:

Raeker wrote:

I don't understand Nick sometimes. Why should you not apologising enough for getting a perfectly valid warning be any reason to accept the appeal? We're not here to unwarn the people that act nice to us. Besides, according to Welcoming, it already detonated with clear smoke coming out before you began shooting.

already told Dodo maybe logs don’t saw that I shot?

According to your appeal you killed Welcoming, who's also the person that punished you. I'd say he would be more than capable to judge whether or not you shot after the grenade went off. The logs only show when the grenade has been thrown, not when it goes off.

I was never killed, nor did i say i was killed by Lex

So he saw you throw a grenade, shot you and then stopped? or was killed by someone else?

Right to clarify He nor I said that HE killed ME, Someone threw a Smoke of which then detonated and then he killed the person who threw it

But how do you know it detonated? It is impossible to see in the logs.

Me and many others have timed it and its around 5 seconds for EVERY grenade

I'm sorry but lets say i see someone throwing grenades at me but didn't get a chance to see what kind. You honestly expect me to wait 5 seconds to check before killing them?

According to the rules, throwing a smoke grenade is a perfectly fine act to do as an innocent, so yes you should wait that 5 seconds, which is annoying. I agree that this needs addressing even though I doubt anybody will care

I would like to know which rules you are looking at

Me too actually, they need improving anyway

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[TTT aslay&warn Appeal]Lexed 7 years 2 months ago #903691

Thank you for your appeal LeXeDHie, This appeal has been Accepted for the following reasons, You are showing you are apologetic, It is an easy mistake to make and i just simply believe that you wouldn't have deserved a warn but maybe simply just a slay, Though people can disagree with this I spoke to WelcomingComic2 and also some higher ranks and it was discussed and I realised to Accept this, next time please be careful Thank you again!.

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