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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820633

Name - What is your in-game name?
IEatBlueCrayons
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID?
STEAM_0:1:16633580
Staff Members Name - Who warned you?
Jax

Punishment Reason - What was the reason of the warning(s)?
Don't join gunfights

Server - Which server did this occur on?

TTT
Story/Situation - What happened?
LonelyDodo, another one of your admins had come around the corner next to the hut which had very few people nearby at the time and started shooting a user for no apparent reason, In my head this is a traitor that is taking out a innocent that is secluded. I therefore start shooting at LonelyDodo and manage to kill him with the other innocent. LonelyDodo was identified as innocent. I get a report with the comment 'well done you just saved an RDMer'. Without a chance to prove my case I am given a slay and warning by Jax.

If you are allowed to kill someone that you deem to be an RDMer would it not be best to communicate this over chat or text first? I understand the need for the 'do n ot join gun fights' rule but this only every seems to work in favour of terrorists.

Extra Information - Anything you would find relevant to your warning(s)?
I can proivide damage logs but I don't think the term of events will be disputed.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820635

I will handle this.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820638

Just to give some context:

- I saw the guy kill an inno and continue without IDing it
- I run to ID the body and call KOS on the person
- I then start shooting said person
(after this IEatBlueCrayons joins gun fight to kill me)

This is clear violation of rule 2.4
If two individuals are fighting and you have no proof of which could be the traitor, you must wait before joining in the fight until one player dies and they either; identifies the body/round ends/question them.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820642

I understand the rule and your actions but the result would have been the same as you did not communicate. You would have killed him, he would be an inno, then I would kill you. Same result, different method.

Edit: Spelling
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820644

From now on this is going to be handled by Kyber with my assistance.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820645

IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
I undertsand the rule and your actiosn but the result would have been the same as you did not communicate. You would have killed him, he would be an inno, then I would kill you. Same result, different method.

And that would have been perfectly fine, but what if he had been a T? you would have RDMed someone because they were shooting a T
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820646

If there is a Trator then it should be called under KOS. Again, communication needed, you are an admin, you should be able ot type or use a mic,

Edit: A sentence
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820649

IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
If there is a Trator then it should be called under KOS. Again, communication needed, you are an admin, you should be able ot type or use a mic,

Edit: A sentence

As I did. Even if I didn't that is besides the point. Point is you broke a rule. now you are appealing a warning you got from breaking said rule. This does not add up
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820650

Ok i will take over, could you add me on steam (I sent you a friend request) so we can chat about what happened?
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820652

LonelyDodo wrote:
IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
I undertsand the rule and your actiosn but the result would have been the same as you did not communicate. You would have killed him, he would be an inno, then I would kill you. Same result, different method.

And that would have been perfectly fine, but what if he had been a T? you would have RDMed someone because they were shooting a T

May I just point out that this is quite petty, you would have been fine with me killing you, you just wanted to get the alleged RDMer first? instead of avoiding the situation entirely or having him slayed the next round? May I also point out that you didn't think he was a Traitor as you referenced him as the RDMer the whole time

Edit: Spelling... again
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820655

IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
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IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
I undertsand the rule and your actiosn but the result would have been the same as you did not communicate. You would have killed him, he would be an inno, then I would kill you. Same result, different method.

And that would have been perfectly fine, but what if he had been a T? you would have RDMed someone because they were shooting a T

May I just point out that this is quite petty, you would have been fine with me killing you, you just wanted to get the alleged RDMer first? instead of avoiding the situation entirely or having him slayed the next round? May I also point out that you didn't think he was a Traitor as you referenced him as the RDMer the whole time

Edit: Spelling... again

I called him an RDMer in the reports where I had access to damage logs. I wouldn't waste my karma for RDMers

and my problem is not with you killing me its you breaking a rule to kill me
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820656

IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
LonelyDodo wrote:
IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
I undertsand the rule and your actiosn but the result would have been the same as you did not communicate. You would have killed him, he would be an inno, then I would kill you. Same result, different method.

And that would have been perfectly fine, but what if he had been a T? you would have RDMed someone because they were shooting a T

May I just point out that this is quite petty, you would have been fine with me killing you, you just wanted to get the alleged RDMer first? instead of avoiding the situation entirely or having him slayed the next round? May I also point out that you didn't think he was a Traitor as you referenced him as the RDMer the whole time

Edit: Spelling... again

Where in the rules does it say You must communicate and you must KOS someone before killing them?
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820658

Ok, if it is possible i would like to be able to chat with you on steam Crayon
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820659

IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
LonelyDodo wrote:
IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
I undertsand the rule and your actiosn but the result would have been the same as you did not communicate. You would have killed him, he would be an inno, then I would kill you. Same result, different method.

And that would have been perfectly fine, but what if he had been a T? you would have RDMed someone because they were shooting a T

May I just point out that this is quite petty, you would have been fine with me killing you, you just wanted to get the alleged RDMer first? instead of avoiding the situation entirely or having him slayed the next round? May I also point out that you didn't think he was a Traitor as you referenced him as the RDMer the whole time

Edit: Spelling... again
Petty? You broke a rule, simple as. I do believe a chat should have been opened up to make you aware that you broke a rule rather than being given the punishment straight up, but that doesn't change the fact that you broke a rule and got punished for it.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820663

Kyber wrote:
Ok, if it is possible i would like to be able to chat with you on steam Crayon

That's fine.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820667

Raeker wrote:
IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
LonelyDodo wrote:
IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
I undertsand the rule and your actiosn but the result would have been the same as you did not communicate. You would have killed him, he would be an inno, then I would kill you. Same result, different method.

And that would have been perfectly fine, but what if he had been a T? you would have RDMed someone because they were shooting a T

May I just point out that this is quite petty, you would have been fine with me killing you, you just wanted to get the alleged RDMer first? instead of avoiding the situation entirely or having him slayed the next round? May I also point out that you didn't think he was a Traitor as you referenced him as the RDMer the whole time

Edit: Spelling... again
Petty? You broke a rule, simple as. I do believe a chat should have been opened up to make you aware that you broke a rule rather than being given the punishment straight up, but that doesn't change the fact that you broke a rule and got punished for it.

I'm not denying that, maybe I would feel less frustrated if indeed I had a chance to voice my side before the judgement was made. I had a long period of not playing TTT as I would encounter a lot of Mod/Admins being blatantly in favour of staff members, regardless of the situation, It's something I see a lot on this server unfortunately, Triggered.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820670

Thanks for your appeal!
In response to this, this appeal has been :denied:
After thoroughly investigating the situation i have come to the conclusion that you had broken a rule which is not to join gunfights.
Thank you!
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #820672

So much for talking to me on steam! haha! No worries.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #821242

Jesus 20 hrs later and still not locked.
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[TTT] Warning + Slay by Jax 6 years 10 months ago #821244

Jaxjaxjack wrote:
Jesus 20 hrs later and still not locked.
Sally or anna lock this thanks
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