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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375350

Mr. Richard wrote:

I think this could be a very good idea if implemented properly. You haven't really gone into detail much and explained how exactly this system would work. Would these average prices be fixed into place or would there be a system which "reads" how much an item has been sold for on average throughout X time (e.g. a month), and give people an estimate based on those statistics?

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Copy that or copy fp. Not hard to understand

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375351

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Mr. Richard wrote:

I think this could be a very good idea if implemented properly. You haven't really gone into detail much and explained how exactly this system would work. Would these average prices be fixed into place or would there be a system which "reads" how much an item has been sold for on average throughout X time (e.g. a month), and give people an estimate based on those statistics?

steamcommunity.com/market/

Copy that or copy fp. Not hard to understand

well there are fees on steam so people would lose money if they manipulate the market by selling items for 100x what they're worth

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375352

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zarp_smashmouth_avatar wrote:

Mr. Richard wrote:

I think this could be a very good idea if implemented properly. You haven't really gone into detail much and explained how exactly this system would work. Would these average prices be fixed into place or would there be a system which "reads" how much an item has been sold for on average throughout X time (e.g. a month), and give people an estimate based on those statistics?

steamcommunity.com/market/

Copy that or copy fp. Not hard to understand

well there are fees on steam so people would lose money if they manipulate the market by selling items for 100x what they're worth

Gives me an idea! Sales tax

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375353

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ronaldmarc2009 wrote:

zarp_smashmouth_avatar wrote:

Mr. Richard wrote:

I think this could be a very good idea if implemented properly. You haven't really gone into detail much and explained how exactly this system would work. Would these average prices be fixed into place or would there be a system which "reads" how much an item has been sold for on average throughout X time (e.g. a month), and give people an estimate based on those statistics?

steamcommunity.com/market/

Copy that or copy fp. Not hard to understand

well there are fees on steam so people would lose money if they manipulate the market by selling items for 100x what they're worth

Gives me an idea! Sales tax

Added benefit is tax evasion RP

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375359

YisYas wrote: Denis wrote: Incoming funny ppl listing 20 slams for 1000000000000 to fry up the average i think he’s gunna do it when they are purchased it counts Same thing applies unfortunately, sales tax is big brain tho + you could actually tax evade (chuteuk style) ingame by dropping your item and they /give u the money or whatever	Denis Offline Diamond Boarder Posts: 2809 Thanks received: 1368 Karma: -49
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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375361

This is a feature we have wanted to add but simply haven't done yet due to focus on other features and the requirement for it to be done in an optimised manner (simply storing all purchase data in the database would not be viable at all), but after some consideration I've come up with a way to do it in the most optimised way possible, so we'll definitely be implementing this in either the Valentines or Easter update.

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375369

Letting the people who sell you booster packs with these said items but also be able to determine the "average" price for them seems like a bad idea.	Morgan Offline Legendary Member Posts: 15970 Thanks received: 6527 Karma: 105
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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375371

Morgan wrote: Letting the people who sell you booster packs with these said items but also be able to determine the "average" price for them seems like a bad idea. Average prices would not be determined by us, but by an automated system which would use sale price in shops.	TheXnator Offline Former Owner "Save the tears for when we win!" Posts: 8122 Thanks received: 4300 Karma: -2023
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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375380

TheXnator wrote:

This is a feature we have wanted to add but simply haven't done yet due to focus on other features and the requirement for it to be done in an optimised manner (simply storing all purchase data in the database would not be viable at all), but after some consideration I've come up with a way to do it in the most optimised way possible, so we'll definitely be implementing this in either the Valentines or Easter update.

Definitely Valentines Update

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375399

TheXnator wrote:

This is a feature we have wanted to add but simply haven't done yet due to focus on other features and the requirement for it to be done in an optimised manner (simply storing all purchase data in the database would not be viable at all), but after some consideration I've come up with a way to do it in the most optimised way possible, so we'll definitely be implementing this in either the Valentines or Easter update.

Definitely Valentines Update

pkms are 1mil now?

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375400

maddox wrote:

TheXnator wrote:

This is a feature we have wanted to add but simply haven't done yet due to focus on other features and the requirement for it to be done in an optimised manner (simply storing all purchase data in the database would not be viable at all), but after some consideration I've come up with a way to do it in the most optimised way possible, so we'll definitely be implementing this in either the Valentines or Easter update.

Definitely Valentines Update

pkms are 1mil now?

haha no they're $1,334,131 on average

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375403

Morgan wrote:

Letting the people who sell you booster packs with these said items but also be able to determine the "average" price for them seems like a bad idea.

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Excuse my ableism but this post makes you look like a fucking retard morgan. AVERAGE PRICE something that is done through transactions and market history, NOT what the lead team wants it to be (fun fact a feature for this exists! Its called rare item store)

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TheXnator wrote:

This is a feature we have wanted to add but simply haven't done yet due to focus on other features and the requirement for it to be done in an optimised manner (simply storing all purchase data in the database would not be viable at all), but after some consideration I've come up with a way to do it in the most optimised way possible, so we'll definitely be implementing this in either the Valentines or Easter update.

Definitely Valentines Update

Did I do a thing? Gonna go cook up a feisty sales tax suggestions next

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375447

Nafe wrote: YisYas wrote: A Good Pianist wrote: How would you average out some of the rare items may I ask out of curiosity? it’s only gunna go average out items people sell in their shop so if it’s like top tier items that people don’t sell them they won’t have an average prive Everything has an average price... Your head doesn't poo brain	A Good Pianist Offline Spectacular Boarder A Wob A Bob Bob Posts: 15000 Thanks received: 3914 Karma: 22
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maddox wrote:

TheXnator wrote:

This is a feature we have wanted to add but simply haven't done yet due to focus on other features and the requirement for it to be done in an optimised manner (simply storing all purchase data in the database would not be viable at all), but after some consideration I've come up with a way to do it in the most optimised way possible, so we'll definitely be implementing this in either the Valentines or Easter update.

Definitely Valentines Update

pkms are 1mil now?

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375451

TheXnator wrote:

This is a feature we have wanted to add but simply haven't done yet due to focus on other features and the requirement for it to be done in an optimised manner (simply storing all purchase data in the database would not be viable at all), but after some consideration I've come up with a way to do it in the most optimised way possible, so we'll definitely be implementing this in either the Valentines or Easter update.

Definitely Valentines Update

Btw as a little QOL feature you could add a prompt when you are buying an item for over 1.5x the average price, this stops new players being confused and the classic “mini2 in my shop for 10m”.

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375454

maddox wrote:

TheXnator wrote:

This is a feature we have wanted to add but simply haven't done yet due to focus on other features and the requirement for it to be done in an optimised manner (simply storing all purchase data in the database would not be viable at all), but after some consideration I've come up with a way to do it in the most optimised way possible, so we'll definitely be implementing this in either the Valentines or Easter update.

Definitely Valentines Update

Btw as a little QOL feature you could add a prompt when you are buying an item for over 1.5x the average price, this stops new players being confused and the classic “mini2 in my shop for 10m”.

thanks for the suggestion!

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375479

After Martin doing some maths and consideration of overall averages being quite easy to manipulate and causing some other issues with accuracy over time, we've made some slight changes so the average will be calculated based on the past month of sales, using the daily averages of each day to calculate the overall monthly average.

This means that averages will update every 24 hours but should be more accurate over a longer period of time, and will also allow us to potentially display the changes in daily averages on a graph (similar to the planned graphs in the FP reboot update) in the future if we ever recode the shops menu.

I would also like to show you all the GREAT DEAL available in my shop on CHEAP PKMs

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375480

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Morgan wrote:

Letting the people who sell you booster packs with these said items but also be able to determine the "average" price for them seems like a bad idea.

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Excuse my ableism but this post makes you look like a fucking retard morgan. AVERAGE PRICE something that is done through transactions and market history, NOT what the lead team wants it to be (fun fact a feature for this exists! Its called rare item store)

Ableism police here, you have broken the rule but since you acknowledged this in your post I will let you off with a verbal.

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375504

TheXnator wrote:

After Martin doing some maths and consideration of overall averages being quite easy to manipulate and causing some other issues with accuracy over time, we've made some slight changes so the average will be calculated based on the past month of sales, using the daily averages of each day to calculate the overall monthly average.

This means that averages will update every 24 hours but should be more accurate over a longer period of time, and will also allow us to potentially display the changes in daily averages on a graph (similar to the planned graphs in the FP reboot update) in the future if we ever recode the shops menu.

I would also like to show you all the GREAT DEAL available in my shop on CHEAP PKMs

Would it be possible for a graph to show if something is going up or down? It would also highlight quite clearly if someone is market manipulating. Side note I'd add a rule to stop it if I were you

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Average prices in shops 2 years 3 months ago #1375505

zarp_smashmouth_avatar wrote:

TheXnator wrote:

After Martin doing some maths and consideration of overall averages being quite easy to manipulate and causing some other issues with accuracy over time, we've made some slight changes so the average will be calculated based on the past month of sales, using the daily averages of each day to calculate the overall monthly average.

This means that averages will update every 24 hours but should be more accurate over a longer period of time, and will also allow us to potentially display the changes in daily averages on a graph (similar to the planned graphs in the FP reboot update) in the future if we ever recode the shops menu.

I would also like to show you all the GREAT DEAL available in my shop on CHEAP PKMs

Would it be possible for a graph to show if something is going up or down? It would also highlight quite clearly if someone is market manipulating. Side note I'd add a rule to stop it if I were you

Adding a graph would require changing around the shops menu quite a bit, so it's unlikely to be added in this update but definitely will be in the future
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potentially display the changes in daily averages on a graph (similar to the planned graphs in the FP reboot update) in the future if we ever recode the shops menu