TOPIC: ⭐Knight Demon Changes - HAVE YOUR SAY⭐

As part of our plans for the coming March Update, we're looking for some suggestions for further suit balancing changes based on recent community feedback, specifically with the Knight Demon Suit.

We have 2 working ideas for potential options, but would like to hear if the community agree with these or have ideas of their own:

• Similar to the SCAN Jammer, a "Demon Jammer" which would prevent players in its radius from being targeted by the Knight Demon, lasting for either a set amount of time or a certain number of uses

OR

• Before the animation, a short period of time where both users have a particle effect to give a small warning (allowing them to react by taking off suits, etc) before they are frozen and teleported

Option 2!

TheXnator wrote:
I support this idea! Whoever came up with it is an actual genius!

Mixers could build a purgatory area on the map that you get put in briefly before you get put back into your original place with half of your HP.

rename the nuke jammer into signal jammer and make it stop both demons and nukes

ronaldmarc2009 wrote:
I agree with Coda because he's not British

whatever the next guy says

I just wanna pick apart the problem with two of the current ideas for anybody voting, of course it's still your choice but it's potentially a big thing that could change your vote.

Option 1:
IN a lot of cases you'll find that the KDS will be used just to simply draw people out of the bank vault, the PD or the casino vault, which results in the instant end of the raid with the exception of the casino raid I believe. In these situations you are very unlikely to want to use a limited time item to prevent you from losing a small bank raid.

Another problem with this idea is that, if like the SCAN Jammer you cannot holster this item. Then you definitely aren't going to want to use this item in the long run, unless you are basing or nuking where it's guaranteed to be worth it. Whilst the idea itself is great, in most cases I can't see it working practically.

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Option 2:
Simply this doesn't really change much, the biggest problem with the suit itself is that you don't get any chance to stop what is happening from happening. You are invulnerable (even to nukes) whilst being taken by the KDS anyway, so to be given the chance to de-equip any suits, becomes pretty much redundant as you get given a very large chance to get ready to holster a suit.

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I would look at targeting the direct ability, rather than anything else about the suit. Perhaps make it so they have to be directly in your vision to be targeted (this seems mostly fair). Or look at another idea, but both of these seem to miss the point of the main problem with the suit.

callumok2004 wrote: i say callum has to give me everything he has

I only have your supercharged uranium mate, nothing else

Also Knight demon is the only counter to these awful 20 trip mine spam DMG in a small elevator so everyone dies and no fun, skill or competition
my out come from this is, Bring Back Downtown

Knight demon isnt the issue the shity ass fucking map is

zarp_smashmouth_avatar wrote:

Night demon pocket dimension???

Nafe wrote:

this sounds nice I won't lie.

bassboosted oven wrote:
demon was still a huge issue with downtown, it ruined the club that was sick

The issue with the knight demon is not the effect it has on the grabbed player, more the general effect of a teammate getting swapped with an enemy inside of a base, The particle effect idea is useless. Jamming the knight demon in a selected area is a far more viable nerf.

Markus wrote: Well yeah but the issue is that if a jammer is brought into the game, it's gonna be over used and the suit will just be useless, i think that bringing counters for everything in such that way is dumb.
I do like the idea of the jammer but i don't think it's the greatest choice.
Re-working the whole mechanic of the knight demon is in my opinion the best choice.
For example, the demon could like TP a player if the demon is leveled with the target properly meaning you won't be able to TP someone at a higher or lower ground than you.

nikola jokic wrote: I believe people would prefer the suit becoming a useless collectable if it meant bases and nukes could be done properly again.

Markus wrote: Or this thread could be used to suggest ideas so it doesn't have to be useless