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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288045





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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288048

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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288049

I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288052

CEO of Business wrote:
I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

LT is REALLY good at making unclear rules
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288053

CEO of Business wrote:
I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

You have to wait a reasonable amount of time.
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288055

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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288058

Martin wrote:
CEO of Business wrote:
I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

You have to wait a reasonable amount of time.
Martin I appreciate the reply, I’m just going to assume a minute or two.
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288060

illegalimmigrant wrote:
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I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

LT is REALLY good at making unclear rules
It shouldn't be unclear aren't looking at it as an excuse to RDM. You should never swap to a mutant with the sole intent to kill a hobo and then swap back to another job. I added some clarifying thoughts in the original suggestion thread here but please let me know if you have any other concerns on it.
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288073

"or switching to a job to instantly kill another job."

only apply mutant for kos hobo right ?
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288078

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CEO of Business wrote:
I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

LT is REALLY good at making unclear rules
It shouldn't be unclear aren't looking at it as an excuse to RDM. You should never swap to a mutant with the sole intent to kill a hobo and then swap back to another job. I added some clarifying thoughts in the original suggestion thread here but please let me know if you have any other concerns on it.
I agree that its job abuse, but if you guys are gonna add to the rule for clarification why would you use the word immediately to do so? One person might think immediately means like 5 seconds after but another person might think it means 5 minutes. I mean I guess it allows for staff discretion but it's just going to cause more punishments where the staff is obviously wrong, but they're really not because they might think 20 minutes is immediate.
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288080

EMP wrote:
illegalimmigrant wrote:
CEO of Business wrote:
I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

LT is REALLY good at making unclear rules
It shouldn't be unclear aren't looking at it as an excuse to RDM. You should never swap to a mutant with the sole intent to kill a hobo and then swap back to another job. I added some clarifying thoughts in the original suggestion thread here but please let me know if you have any other concerns on it.

Switching to Mutant to kill a Hobo isn't bypassing the RDM rule. It is not Random Death Match. It is Death Match. Hobos and Mutants are engaged in a Death Match, they can kill each other, why have you made this more difficult for yourselves?
EDIT: Additionally, EVERYONE can kill a Mutant - is that bypassing RDM also? The timing aspect itself is a whole other problem, but this solution is the worst possible choice as it makes every aspect of the problem more confusing.
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288085

Justice wrote:
EMP wrote:
illegalimmigrant wrote:
CEO of Business wrote:
I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

LT is REALLY good at making unclear rules
It shouldn't be unclear aren't looking at it as an excuse to RDM. You should never swap to a mutant with the sole intent to kill a hobo and then swap back to another job. I added some clarifying thoughts in the original suggestion thread here but please let me know if you have any other concerns on it.

Switching to Mutant to kill a Hobo isn't bypassing the RDM rule. It is not Random Death Match. It is Death Match. Hobos and Mutants are engaged in a Death Match, they can kill each other, why have you made this more difficult for yourselves?
EDIT: Additionally, EVERYONE can kill a Mutant - is that bypassing RDM also? The timing aspect itself is a whole other problem, but this solution is the worst possible choice as it makes every aspect of the problem more confusing.

btw in the rule they say mutant can't kill hobo cuzz they are friend or something like that
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288087

surprise there wouldn't be a problem if people weren't ass hats who just want to fuck others over :zarp: :zarp:
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288091

illegalimmigrant wrote:
EMP wrote:
illegalimmigrant wrote:
CEO of Business wrote:
I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

LT is REALLY good at making unclear rules
It shouldn't be unclear aren't looking at it as an excuse to RDM. You should never swap to a mutant with the sole intent to kill a hobo and then swap back to another job. I added some clarifying thoughts in the original suggestion thread here but please let me know if you have any other concerns on it.
I agree that its job abuse, but if you guys are gonna add to the rule for clarification why would you use the word immediately to do so? One person might think immediately means like 5 seconds after but another person might think it means 5 minutes. I mean I guess it allows for staff discretion but it's just going to cause more punishments where the staff is obviously wrong, but they're really not because they might think 20 minutes is immediate.
As I said in the original suggestion it would be up to the staff member of interpret the situation. I didn't want to add a set time because that in it self can be a problem. The spirit of the mutant hobo deathmatch rule is not to allow you to see someone as a hobo and swap to mutant to kill them and swap back to another job. Its to allow large groups to have fun RPing and fighting it out. I don't see any other of the examples with a time set in them and they don't cause extreme issues. We also talked about making the mutant job respawn when you spawn into it. I also wouldn't be apposed to removing the whole mutant job, or we could move the deathmatch part to a new job.
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288100

EMP wrote:
illegalimmigrant wrote:
EMP wrote:
illegalimmigrant wrote:
CEO of Business wrote:
I need clarity on this please, if I switch to mutant how long do I have to wait until I can kill a hobo???

LT is REALLY good at making unclear rules
It shouldn't be unclear aren't looking at it as an excuse to RDM. You should never swap to a mutant with the sole intent to kill a hobo and then swap back to another job. I added some clarifying thoughts in the original suggestion thread here but please let me know if you have any other concerns on it.
I agree that its job abuse, but if you guys are gonna add to the rule for clarification why would you use the word immediately to do so? One person might think immediately means like 5 seconds after but another person might think it means 5 minutes. I mean I guess it allows for staff discretion but it's just going to cause more punishments where the staff is obviously wrong, but they're really not because they might think 20 minutes is immediate.
As I said in the original suggestion it would be up to the staff member of interpret the situation. I didn't want to add a set time because that in it self can be a problem. The spirit of the mutant hobo deathmatch rule is not to allow you to see someone as a hobo and swap to mutant to kill them and swap back to another job. Its to allow large groups to have fun RPing and fighting it out. I don't see any other of the examples with a time set in them and they don't cause extreme issues. We also talked about making the mutant job respawn when you spawn into it. I also wouldn't be apposed to removing the whole mutant job, or we could move the deathmatch part to a new job.

let's be real no one goes mutant to roleplay against hobos
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[SSRP] Meeting Outcome 07/11/2020 4 years 2 weeks ago #1288115

so would that new change apply to hitmen aswell then
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