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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335128

Hey guys, I have been trying to look into what issues the TTT server may currently have and spoke to a couple of old players and staff members for their opinions. Here I will list some of the things that were mentioned to me as well as things I mentioned to those who partook in the discussion and I will also continue speaking to Henny and the staff on working on solutions.


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Rule change (2.1) about people having to question everything instead of acting upon, it should not be a requirement to question. Makes the game harder for innocents. This was changed last meeting after being mentioned prior to the meeting.


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See guns on the floor replaced by different guns. A individual suggestion should be done about this suggesting what guns should be replaced by what.
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Too many weapons that has very similar stats to each other and not unique in its own way. We had a fairly lengthy discussion about his and it's not easy to balance weapons when one becomes too OP in comparison to others which results in complaints, if you know a better solution then let us know.
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Very skin dependant, small playermodels and broken hitboxes which puts others at a disadvantage. My suggestion to this is to disallow certain skins from being used in-game such as the smaller anime playermodels, but allowed on other PS servers.
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Having to wait for your skin to craft.. very annoying.
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"The minecraft map is extremely overrated and people are no longer joining TTT servers specifically to play that map." Will try and speak to the staff + owner about this and we can then look into what other TTT servers have to offer in terms of maps along with other different aspects that may draw players in.



Now this leads me to ask you guys what should be added to this list? I wish to consistently update it and to keep progress of it and yes, I did speak to Henny about publishing this and he approved of it. In no way shape or form am I trying to shit talk the server, I really like the TTT server and probably is the only TTT server I like in Garry's Mod but it does have its issues and with your guys help, we can hopefully make the server have a big comeback once again. This is a discussion topic, not trash on the people who make these decisions, keep it respectful because I don't want it locked.
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335145

What even is the original ttt map, like what features on the current map have been added? Honestly I always thought it would be great to add more stuff to the map like with the Halloween map and Christmas map such as another island or a ship or hollowing out a mountain for a cool area. Changing the textures is eh tho and ngl the easter textures were kinda ugly and I saw players leave just bc they didn't like them
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335146

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What even is the original ttt map, like what features on the current map have been added? Honestly I always thought it would be great to add more stuff to the map like with the Halloween map and Christmas map such as another island or a ship or hollowing out a mountain for a cool area. Changing the textures is eh tho and ngl the easter textures were kinda ugly and I saw players leave just bc they didn't like them
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I mean a really smart way of implementing a ship and such is adding it as a prop into the original map.
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335175

The map variation could definitely be an issue just like with the 2016 christmas map but I don't think it is. But I completely agree with the skins thing, their hitboxes need to be fixed and so do their sizes, the bunny miku is so much smaller than the festive miku (for e.g) its laughable, I know its not a simple task but skins like that definitely ruin the experience in some cases, and skins such as the Mercy skin have the same issue as the Jack Skellington skin had back in the day, its headshot hitbox is a bit fucked so its not as broken as jack used to be because he didn't have a headshot hitbox at all however, it can still fuck people up when they try to headshot you.


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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335177

I would just like to mention a few facts here.

The 2016 map

The 2016 map didn't work due to the fact that we didn't test it and we fucked a lot of shit up, I wasn't as experienced as I am now at mapping at that point and so a lot of things were broken af. Hence when I remade the Xmas map I started from scratch since the old Xmas map was completely broken. The only thing I could source from the old Xmas map was the game-level design. Meaning the snow and such. everything else (All the traps, and techy stuff) Was broken so I remade it all and made things 10000% better and so the Xmas map was tested over a month and small adjustments were put in place to make it even better for everyone. I believe I even spent about a good 200-300 man-hours reworking that map for Xmas. And it worked great. We also tested at that point how it would affect the server within ranking and players. We found that it made almost no effect at all. If anything it made more players come as they had heard the map was broken and now fixed. Which in turn meant that they could play the map this time. And Christmas was a great success.

Easter map

The current update (Easter) was a little bit of less work since I didn't have time to add a new trap or anything massive. In plans, I did want to add a trap with a bunny bouncing on people and it worked great until testing the map that's where people would get about 20 fps if that trap was working, and I run a GTX 1080 ti, and even then it lagged. due to the way things were and the short time I had to make the map, small things had to be cut short or just dropped. It's a very common thing in games you see leftover code in many things for features people wanted but didn't have time for since they have to meet deadlines. I work with maps the same way. I map a lot and some of it is for money and some for Zarp. It's something I enjoy and it's something I have made a name for. The map had fewer features but many in-game fixes, all from texture issues clipping issues, and performance issues. I don't know if you noticed but there is a large FPS boost from the main map and the OG map. Plus there is still an easter egg on the map that no one has found and it's great! The point is Their is the future. If I am about to work on maps for the coming events and seasons there is time for people to speak up and say what they want to see. I can make that happen. It just needs to not be given last second. mapping takes a lot of time.

My conclusion

I dont mean to be rude I just wanted to have my words in this so everyone can understand the limits and reassons for these things happen, Player count, this time of year is always lower, people have exams, finals you name it plus with so much school to catch up on due to the virus people haven't got as much time to play at the moment. Once we get back to the other half of the year things will rise again like normal they always have and always will it's just how things are and always will be.

TLDR

Maps take time, time isn't something we have a lot of so we have to use it wisely. The 2016 map was fucked so that void. And last but not least TTT maps are not the issue, People are back at school and it's summertime people are outside. Once the other half of the year comes numbers will rise.
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335185

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... Plus there is still an easter egg on the map that no one has found and it's great! ...

FOUND IT :woohoo:
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Appreciate the reply firstly, there's just a couple things to mention though.

Yeah I kinda forgot about the Christmas map itself being broken so that definitely must've played a part in the fall of players at the time, but I'm still somewhat convinced that people still don't join because of what I mentioned in my original post. I really wish I could provide the statistics but wayback machine doesn't have it archived unfortunately, makes our lives much harder to not be able to see where the server was standing in ranks at the time so we can be certain.

Personally I never really had any performance issues with any of the maps, the ladders are fucking stupid in the original map is my main concern but you learn to adapt to them. What I really think you could do (idk the technical side of this) is create these cool structures and such you've done, then port them into the map as a prop. It's nothing to lose at this point so if these new maps you make aren't doing much to the playercount then I do believe going back to the original map is the final solution but again if it is possible to port your work over then that is something to look towards.

btw leak easter egg thanks
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335196

Clarky wrote:

btw leak easter egg thanks
The real easter egg was the friends we made along the way
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Nogtog wrote:
Clarky wrote:

btw leak easter egg thanks
The real easter egg was the friends we made along the way
Wow Nogtog I never thought about it that way. You've changed my look on life, I appreciate it greatly and I thank you for sharing your views with us.
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Hellsdevil wrote:
Nogtog wrote:
Clarky wrote:

btw leak easter egg thanks
The real easter egg was the friends we made along the way
Wow Nogtog I never thought about it that way. You've changed my look on life, I appreciate it greatly and I thank you for sharing your views with us.
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335233

I will be responding to each point and how I have a layout to help increase playercount

1. Map
Mix3rs has done a great job on the Easter map, and a new, upcoming map which will be put out tonight. However, within two weeks if this map does not generate the playercount I would like to see, I will have no choice but to replace it with the old version of b5 for a week or two, to see if that has the desired effect. If that doesnt even work, then a last ditch effort would be a map pool. However, I am confident that this new map being released tonight will drive the playercount up. It is pretty much the old b5 map, but with a ton of improvements made to it.

2. Rule
Changed babyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

3.Suggestions/Gameplay issues
I am always looking at suggestions for the server, and the more the better! I have plans on releasing another weapons update in the coming weeks, and this will include more floor spawn weapons, prestige weapons, traitor weapons, and detective weapons. For the playermodel and skin crafting, that is the pointshop itself and I have no say in that, so I cannot speak on that.
The problem with guns having such similar stats is balancing. Its difficult to have a gun that is extremely unique all the while being balanced with the rest. But we still do it to an extent and I think we have done a good job at that.

On top of all this, I will be doing some weapon balancing as well, buffing and nerfing the weapons already in the game, and I will be hosting events as I have been doing, every week.
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335245

Close TTT USA and transfer those server resources into TTT UK server - so we can get better tick rate and thereby better hitbox detection! :clap: :zarp:
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335255

People always need changes, Zarp is overall lacking devs, you have to change maps, add fresh content to always have a decent amount of people attracted to the servers whether its SSRP, TTT or any other server.
I felt like there was a huge opportunity and doors opening back when Raeker was CM, gargantuan amount of players on, Patrick was still with us, Deadmonstor was the dev, Xnator was there too, but nowadays we only have EMP, Mix and Xnator doing map and dev stuff, might be more im not sure

It's gonna be hard to find new people to help the devs, Codabro is a good candidate, he did alot of cool shit, he could go far but that's up to him if he wants to
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Close TTT USA and transfer those server resources into TTT UK server - so we can get better tick rate and thereby better hitbox detection! :clap: :zarp:
I don't think you understand
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I've added colours to the thread for the following:
Green = Done
Yellow = Pending
Red = Not happening

Also had a couple stuff mentioned to me recently, I'll be sure to add them to the thread soon.
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Express your issues/concerns about TTT's state 3 years 6 months ago #1335395

Kanna. wrote:
Close TTT USA and transfer those server resources into TTT UK server - so we can get better tick rate and thereby better hitbox detection! :clap: :zarp:

Bruh one is on a UK box and the other one on the US box, also the tickrate isn't really the problem some skins just have parts of their body that don't have a hitbox, like the Festive Miku when sometimes a headshot doesn't work on her.
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Clarky wrote:
I've added colours to the thread for the following:
Green = Done
Yellow = Pending
Red = Not happening

Also had a couple stuff mentioned to me recently, I'll be sure to add them to the thread soon.
Sorry I cannot read the yellow.
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Sally wrote:
Clarky wrote:
I've added colours to the thread for the following:
Green = Done
Yellow = Pending
Red = Not happening

Also had a couple stuff mentioned to me recently, I'll be sure to add them to the thread soon.
Sorry I cannot read the yellow.
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Sally wrote:
Clarky wrote:
I've added colours to the thread for the following:
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Red = Not happening

Also had a couple stuff mentioned to me recently, I'll be sure to add them to the thread soon.
Sorry I cannot read the yellow.
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What even is the original ttt map, like what features on the current map have been added? Honestly I always thought it would be great to add more stuff to the map like with the Halloween map and Christmas map such as another island or a ship or hollowing out a mountain for a cool area. Changing the textures is eh tho and ngl the easter textures were kinda ugly and I saw players leave just bc they didn't like them
Have to agree with nogtog on that one the Halloween map and the Xmas map (2020 map)
were personally my favorite maps new content being added and the xmas map personally was a such a cool map considering it had a ship trap and cool features.
The Halloween map was very cool and I enjoyed it.
not to disrespect Mix3rz the easter map is odd the textures are very ugly and barely any features were added no new traps I understand Mix3rz that didn't have much time considering it was the pandemic i really enjoyed the xmas map and I really had lots of fun of playing it.
if I'm being honest ttt is extremely boring for me i just really wish ttt USA had players considering it gets very boring to play b5 over and over. it's sad seeing the usa server being dead
personally i would love to see ttt USA being populated
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