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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233806

I just made a ban appeal that was pretty lengthy, going into depth about some problems I've had and how I want to play on the server again, that was all good, thought I'd get a good range of feedback on it and see what the staff think about me. however exothermic, someone I only afew days ago slated in his super admin application because I didn't think he was ready claimed the appeal as soon as I uploaded it and denied it instantly for no reason without taking anything else into consideration, I even said that would happen in my appeal if you'd like to check it.

exo this is not something you get to decide on your own, i made an appeal for every staff member to see and give their own opinions not for some salty guy to instantly deny me for no reason.

even in my response to your app i literally said I barely see you on, you do not have any right to judge me or the warns I get when you wern't even there. You said all my recent warns were for prop abuse, thats a lie since you warned me for rdm recently too, one of the favouritism cases I spoke about since it was a staff member i killed. stop being salty and let others have an input. there was a whole explanation there that I bothered to type out and you obvuiusly didn't even read it.
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233807

only one staff member handles an appeal if you thought he would be bias in the first place you could've asked him not to handle or told a lead team member
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233808

Firstly I didn't say all ur recents were for prop abuse I said 5 were, secondly I am unbiased so I didn't care about what you said on my application, thirdly it is up to the admin handling it appeal not the whole TTT staff team. This was denied as you obviously haven't stopped prop abusing after your other bans so I decided you need the time off to think about what you did.
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233809

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Firstly I didn't say all ur recents were for prop abuse I said 5 were, secondly I am unbiased so I didn't care about what you said on my application, thirdly it is up to the admin handling it appeal not the whole TTT staff team. This was denied as you obviously haven't stopped prop abusing after your other bans so I decided you need the time off to think about what you did.

actually read the application and then respond again, either you don't understand or you obviously do care, there were many things I spoke about not just "please mr admin sir I've changed unban me please"
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233810

also i don't know what you mean by recents, I was banned for a month, and was only warned 2 times before my next ban so idk where you pulled that up
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233811

Alex... wrote:
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Firstly I didn't say all ur recents were for prop abuse I said 5 were, secondly I am unbiased so I didn't care about what you said on my application, thirdly it is up to the admin handling it appeal not the whole TTT staff team. This was denied as you obviously haven't stopped prop abusing after your other bans so I decided you need the time off to think about what you did.

actually read the application and then respond again, either you don't understand or you obviously do care, there were many things I spoke about not just "please mr admin sir I've changed unban me please"
I have already read your appeal, just because you decide not to appeal any recents doesn't mean they wont be taken into consideration when you have 6 recents and I understand that you want to play on the server but you have to understand that you can't ruin other peoples experience at the same time. Also warns aren't active after 2 weeks so I don't know why you were banned from warns 2 years ago.
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233812

After reading your unban appeal and also the outcome from exo.

You clearly don't care about the rules as you break them all the time (you say so yourself). You've been banned a lot and should know not to prop abuse.

Now if you actually cared about playing on the server you'd appeal your "wrongful" warnings.

I'd suggest waiting out this ban and learning from your mistakes.
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233813

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Exothermic362 wrote:
Firstly I didn't say all ur recents were for prop abuse I said 5 were, secondly I am unbiased so I didn't care about what you said on my application, thirdly it is up to the admin handling it appeal not the whole TTT staff team. This was denied as you obviously haven't stopped prop abusing after your other bans so I decided you need the time off to think about what you did.

actually read the application and then respond again, either you don't understand or you obviously do care, there were many things I spoke about not just "please mr admin sir I've changed unban me please"
I have already read your appeal, just because you decide not to appeal any recents doesn't mean they wont be taken into consideration when you have 6 recents and I understand that you want to play on the server but you have to understand that you can't ruin other peoples experience at the same time. Also warns aren't active after 2 weeks so I don't know why you were banned from warns 2 years ago.
i think the active warning system works differently, i believe they wear off when they are in game time rather than just 2 weeks
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233814

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also i don't know what you mean by recents, I was banned for a month, and was only warned 2 times before my next ban so idk where you pulled that up

as I said its a glitch and if you did read it you would know about it
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233815

You could appeal again and ask Exo not to handle. I'll give my opinion here, you were given 3 week ban. Literally the day you got unbanned, you came back and were given 6 punishments in one day. This ban is more than deserved, and when It expires I suggest you behave or you really run the risk of getting a perma ban.

EDIT - "Recents" are any punishments that you have have gotten within the past two weeks, these can be warns, slays, mutes, gags etc.

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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233816

Alex... wrote:
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also i don't know what you mean by recents, I was banned for a month, and was only warned 2 times before my next ban so idk where you pulled that up

as I said its a glitch and if you did read it you would know about it
even still you got the punishements, also recents aren't just warns they are slays, mutes, gags etc
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233817

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You could appeal again and ask Exo not to handle. I'll give my opinion here, you were given 3 week ban. Literally the day you got unbanned, you came back and were given 6 punishments in one day. This ban is more than deserved, and when It expires I suggest you behave or you really run the risk of getting a perma ban.

EDIT - "Recents" are any punishments that you have have gotten within the past two weeks, these can be warns, slays, mutes, gags etc.


ok this I don't understand and another reason the whole system is glitched for me. on the day I was unbanned I was warned 2 times for me as I was banned 2 times for an hour, idk whats going on there
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233819

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also i don't know what you mean by recents, I was banned for a month, and was only warned 2 times before my next ban so idk where you pulled that up

as I said its a glitch and if you did read it you would know about it
even still you got the punishements, also recents aren't just warns they are slays, mutes, gags etc

^^^ this I didn't know about, most of those is just someone stareing at me until I pick up a minecart and slay me for abuse, aonther favouritsm thing i spoke about
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Alex... wrote:
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You could appeal again and ask Exo not to handle. I'll give my opinion here, you were given 3 week ban. Literally the day you got unbanned, you came back and were given 6 punishments in one day. This ban is more than deserved, and when It expires I suggest you behave or you really run the risk of getting a perma ban.

EDIT - "Recents" are any punishments that you have have gotten within the past two weeks, these can be warns, slays, mutes, gags etc.


ok this I don't understand and another reason the whole system is glitched for me. on the day I was unbanned I was warned 2 times for me as I was banned 2 times for an hour, idk whats going on there

One is likely an auto ban, these happen after you get 4 warnings over a long period of time (they're pretty glitched) the other is an actual ban which is more than deserved
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233826

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After reading your unban appeal and also the outcome from exo.

You clearly don't care about the rules as you break them all the time (you say so yourself). You've been banned a lot and should know not to prop abuse.

Now if you actually cared about playing on the server you'd appeal your "wrongful" warnings.

I'd suggest waiting out this ban and learning from your mistakes.

I've been banned many times due to a glitch I spoke about in the appeal. most of my warnings are from misunderstandings or blatant favouritism. basically every one of my rdm warns is due to me killing Ts and them getting salty, not innocents. I spoke about this in my appeal which you claim to have read.
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233827

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You could appeal again and ask Exo not to handle. I'll give my opinion here, you were given 3 week ban. Literally the day you got unbanned, you came back and were given 6 punishments in one day. This ban is more than deserved, and when It expires I suggest you behave or you really run the risk of getting a perma ban.

EDIT - "Recents" are any punishments that you have have gotten within the past two weeks, these can be warns, slays, mutes, gags etc.


ok this I don't understand and another reason the whole system is glitched for me. on the day I was unbanned I was warned 2 times for me as I was banned 2 times for an hour, idk whats going on there

One is likely an auto ban, these happen after you get 4 warnings over a long period of time (they're pretty glitched) the other is an actual ban which is more than deserved

yeah i know you havent read my appeal but i spoke about a glitch there, i get banned after every single warn i get since im permanently on 7 active warnings
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Exothermic362 wrote:
Firstly I didn't say all ur recents were for prop abuse I said 5 were, secondly I am unbiased so I didn't care about what you said on my application, thirdly it is up to the admin handling it appeal not the whole TTT staff team. This was denied as you obviously haven't stopped prop abusing after your other bans so I decided you need the time off to think about what you did.

There is no such thing as unbiased person. Everything including the information we take in is affected by our previous life experiences and schemes surrounding the topic etc. It doesn't look good to admit that you are biased but you are and so am I and so is everyone else. That being said you did the right thing when you denied the appeal as it was obvious he has no intention to actually stop rule breaking and just wanted to get back to disturbing the peace

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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233835

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Exothermic362 wrote:
Firstly I didn't say all ur recents were for prop abuse I said 5 were, secondly I am unbiased so I didn't care about what you said on my application, thirdly it is up to the admin handling it appeal not the whole TTT staff team. This was denied as you obviously haven't stopped prop abusing after your other bans so I decided you need the time off to think about what you did.

There is no such thing as unbiased person. Everything including the information we take in is affected by our previous life experiences and schemes surrounding the topic etc. It doesn't look good to admit that you are biased but you are and so am I and so is everyone else. That being said you did the right thing when you denied the appeal as it was obvious he has no intention to actually stop rule breaking and just wanted to get back to disturbing the peace

this is the problem, i literally took the time to explain this in my appeal. i am not a minge at all, just someone who gets into a lot of situations regarding staff. anyone who's spoken to me knows im not a bad person and i don't want to "disturb the peace" I just want to play some TTT on a good server
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Salt 4 years 6 months ago #1233851

look guys, I didn't mean for this to turn into a discussion on how I'm a rule breaker, sure I want to be unbanned and i do think the server is great but it was more to adress the glitch I have, all I see is my warns thats it , i see none of these "recents" you talk about I always get banned after every warn I get as its always over the threshold for some reason. the f5 menu is completely blank for me.

I just wanted to make an appeal, let people give feedback and be happy with it all, but since the approval system is scuffed apparently thats not how it went down. sorry if you guys see me as a minge with no context but if you guys can't understand what I was talking about in my appeal theres nothing I can say. my appeal was clearly directed at the whole staff team not just one person and thats why i made this thread when it got insta denied. didn't know about the 1 person rule thing, my mistake i guess

just lock or delete the post please, thanks
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LonelyDodo wrote:
Exothermic362 wrote:
Firstly I didn't say all ur recents were for prop abuse I said 5 were, secondly I am unbiased so I didn't care about what you said on my application, thirdly it is up to the admin handling it appeal not the whole TTT staff team. This was denied as you obviously haven't stopped prop abusing after your other bans so I decided you need the time off to think about what you did.

There is no such thing as unbiased person. Everything including the information we take in is affected by our previous life experiences and schemes surrounding the topic etc. It doesn't look good to admit that you are biased but you are and so am I and so is everyone else. That being said you did the right thing when you denied the appeal as it was obvious he has no intention to actually stop rule breaking and just wanted to get back to disturbing the peace

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