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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837440

Scenario: Traitor places c4 and an innocent says " there is a c4 in (location) Detective come and defuse it " the detective says "how much time left " Traitor " There is plenty of time , 2 mins i think , Yeah , its plenty of time " . IS THIS KOSABLE OR NOT?
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837451

Moved this to the TTT section.

Hmm, I am not sure but I wouldn't say you are allowed to KOS on that, I would say that is only very suspicious.
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837462

In my opinion this should not be KOSable as it is only telling how much time on it however if it is someone who is far away and lying it would only be a sus at most.
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837472

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In my opinion this should not be KOSable as it is only telling how much time on it however if it is someone who is far away and lying it would only be a sus at most.

I agree, that should not be enough proof to call a KOS.

It is still highly suspicious ... I guess opinions might diverge among our staff members, so I would be interested in sharing this with our collegues.
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837473

in my opinion this is KOSable and would consider it traitorous act described in rule 2.3 as this is a traitorous act that was made in attempt to kill detective. Lying about killing a T and being proven for example is something I would consider a traitorous act as well etc.
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837506

I'd see this as T baiting. Then again, it depends on the situation, the player could have seen the C4 and that's why they know when it explodes.

To save confusions it's safer to say it isn't KOSable (and the staff will do so as they don't want to handle any more difficult situations).
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837508

Wouldn't call a KOS over this however it is a very suspicious act.
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837529

It's a very suspicious act to lie about how much time is left but it could be due to other issues or the player not having checked the time. I personally don't think it should be kill on sight -able it's just the fact that if the detective is gonna defuse the c4 it doesn't matter how much time is left unless there's not enough time to defuse it in which point I believe a kill on sight would be appropriate
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837542

If someone asks the Detective to go defuse the C4 and says that there's plenty of time, there's nothing wrong with that. C4s can be timed from 45 seconds to 12 minutes or something like that. You may put Suspicion on him though.
But if the detective says: "I am going to try defuse the C4, if I die from an explosion, KOS "Traitor's name" THEN you may call a KOS on him.
There's also the scenario that the Detective doesn't know how to defuse, fucks up and explodes himself, but... then if you call a KOS on the Traitor and the Traitor reports you then noone should really be punished.

Pretty complicated situation tbh.
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837750

well, i got slayed and warned for that , even tho half of the staff ( ones who replayed ) said yes to KOS and other half said no KOS, its pretty much a slay without 100% from Kyber , reported from AdmiralSnackBar, idk if he did it right or wrong to give a slay / warn . anyways , Thanks !
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837753

why don't you time it and see
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837755

No it not it rdm
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837761

Admiral Snackbar wrote:
No it not it rdm

Nice english mate.

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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837843

As mentioned earlier today, in my view shouldn't be kosable, players could be looking from afar when inno and mentioning the time and guess it wrong or don't double check. It can make someone very suspicious but not kosable.
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837853

Chienman wrote:
Jax wrote:
In my opinion this should not be KOSable as it is only telling how much time on it however if it is someone who is far away and lying it would only be a sus at most.

I agree, that should not be enough proof to call a KOS.

It is still highly suspicious ... I guess opinions might diverge among our staff members, so I would be interested in sharing this with our collegues.
I wouldn't really call it KOSable despite the obvious lie, probably just place it under suspicion as things like these rarely happen from what I've seen. Can we see in the logs for exactly how much time the c4 was placed? I can't remember. Because people would start using this excuse to defend themselves in reports, much like the 'ran past unid'd/saw you go in T room meme'. X: How much time left on C4? Y: 40 seconds. X kills Y even though Y didn't lie but if the C4 doesn't go off there's no way of checking if the motive holds.
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837858

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well, i got slayed and warned for that , even tho half of the staff ( ones who replayed ) said yes to KOS and other half said no KOS, its pretty much a slay without 100% from Kyber , reported from AdmiralSnackBar, idk if he did it right or wrong to give a slay / warn . anyways , Thanks !
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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #837997

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TTT Question . 6 years 9 months ago #838203

shouldn't be kos as t's are allowed to lie since they could have seen it a while ago and guessed the time or ran by quick and mis read the time
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TTT Question . 4 years 6 months ago #1235140

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TTT Question . 4 years 6 months ago #1235141

2 years ago huh
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