TOPIC: This is why gems were good in the first place

The title refers to before gems were a common source of money.

I would like each and every person that claims that the SSRP economy is so called "fucked" to please state their reasons and explanations as to why that's so.

While you do that, I will present you with a cycle chart which is kind of simple to understand if you are capable of looking at it from another perspective rather than just "omg gems made people rich easy wtf".
So basically this wheel represents why gems were the base that allowed players to enjoy a much wider arrange of items that some might simply state are op, but are a part of zarp, so we must see them as important to the economy in every way.
the value of gems is actually based on the amount of money that players generated from different sources of income such as printing, drugs etc...something which I'm sure not many people noticed as they began to play a bigger role in our beloved economy.
BUT, the thing is that they are also a big fuck over due to the inability of people to understand what powers its value.
Gems were the item that exposed the current amount of zarp currency to a much bigger light, they are fundamental to the current balance of many wallets.

blah blah blah, lets move on to the part that people found out they could mine rubies and get gems. I'll just say that whoever who made a lot of money from gem mining, that says that everyone should do it, is a fool and a completely ignorant one. Because if everyone were mining gems, the value of gems would drop to shit and no one would actually be able to pay for them. In order to keep the value of gems at a reasonable amount(more than the sale price of one ruby which equals to about 80 gems), people still need to make money using the traditional methods. If we decrease that, slowly but surely when events aren't in place, we would be able to witness a drop in the amount of total zarp money on the servers. Why? cause no damn money is being made, how the hell will gems make you any money if no one printed it?
Now the chances of such a thing happening is very low, cause the money people get from certain income sources will always in one way or another move on to another player and eventually turn into gems( this would be a bubble btw, tough to pop though).

I mean, this is pretty cool and all because many people are rich and the rest just enjoy average balances, but the problem with that is that more any more players are moving over to gem mining which equals to less printing cause they are able to use that as their main and even only income source. Slowly the money goes over to people who don't actually generate any money.

But just for curiosity, why not ask ourselves, what the fuck would happen if we got rid of them, or at least limited the ability to obtain gems to just events or something(to keep the event features). Well, nothing special. A big outrage and then people will return to their bases and print. Its actually quite simple if you think about it, since all we are doing is taking out that little bug that keeps the money from flowing( most of the time ). -- kind of a solution to your whole basing problem with lack of bases and all that

Honestly, you might see all of this as complete utter bullshit, but fuck it. Instead of giving me shit for it, go over and counter each and every statement I've made. Let us have a proper debate about a topic for once, instead of just spewing hate at each other.



btw I know the title kinda feels clickbaity lmao
also..... to whoever posts any arguments against this, sorry but I won't be replying cause I am just lazy and can't be asked to waste any more time thinking about this topic. I just wanted to get it out there. I guess you could counter each other idfk lol

Personally I agree with you, It's fine.

Money's made by the Printer Hacker 2.0.

nahhh m8 having 3b isn't something you usually end up spending on wheel.

And those who agree with you are pure roleplayers who look at money as an aesthetic feature rather than something you compete for, which causes misconceptions. Competing for gold is clearly better so it should clearly be prioritized among things like a new Server 4.

Never been a big fan of AFK mining, ill do it like once a month, though this is well thought out and clears a lot of things up, as so many people complain about the economy

Keep in mind that in events gems give you the chance to spin the wheel and win in-game cash, not only items.

AA RFLeX wrote:
aware of that

This is false, the reason why gems has the price that it has, is because of the fact that you can spin the wheel and generate a lot of money from that.
This is also false, since you are making money from spinning the wheel with gems, as long as you buy gems for 30$ each, you can profit from spinning the wheel, therefore gems will always be 30$ or higher. It will never go below this, since people would rather spin the wheel, then selling the gems and losing money.

I was told that some people made 50mil in 10 hours from mining, this would make it around 5mil~ an hour. Now once you look at s1+s2+s3, you will have well around 30-40 people mining totally. This would average around 175~ millions being put into the economy every hour. - Problem is mining takes 0 skill, and it's 0 rp, so if you have 3 servers where people are mostly afk mining, then the rp is slowly dying out, once the rp starts dying out on a server, then that server starts dying out.

In the fine circle you showed, you fail to include that from spinning the wheel you most of the times get a lot of cash, which are being PUT into the economy, - IF you get a weapon / case, you may turn that back into gems, and then spin the wheel again, giving you another chance to get more money.

As mentioned gems Can generate a LOT of money from the event wheels, but its also a cheap way to make money from other that have printed it with op printers in their elevator bases. mining does kill the rp, the competition, the fun and does generate a ton of money and items into the economy with the event wheels. The economy is not fine

Should make it possible to only be able to mine or convert items to gems during events that would require the gems.

- Let me also note something, when you buy gems from other players, you receive gems, and he receives your money. (Your money stays in the economy) - And if you then use the gems you bought from the player, to spin the wheel, you are guaranteed to get either money, or weapons. - Therefore gems are boosting the economy up, and since you have 30-40 players at all times afk mining, you will have a broken economy. Can you give me a counterargument to this?

- When you allow players to use auto clicker, and afk mine all day and night, which essentially makes them 5M~ an hour, then after months, you're gonna have a broken economy, which we're seeing today. This is boring for new players also, they have nothing to strife for,

Redwingz sends his regards.

Jordz wrote:
There is no way you read that text that fast. You just agreed cause you're too lazy to read instead of just think about it...

Well that's sad, you said you wanted a debate, and we gave it to you, you dont want to debate it any further? How come? We must've given some good points

Jacob wrote: Its just that its literally too much of a headache to even think about it anymore...
Also, yes your points are pretty good I ain't gonna lie, although I still think there are some things that aren't necessarily true in what you said, just don't want to think about it in more detail.

RedWingz wrote:
I love a good debate, please try to point out the things that was untrue in my statements - you wanted a debate, you brought this upon yourself

Hey Redwingz you wanted a debate and then suddenly you pussy out? Not only did you spend atleast 20 minutes making that shitty paint thing without any true information but you also said you wanted a debate. What happened, you crawled back to ur mums vag again?

Honestly stupid lol, gems ruined the economy with the items it brought to it, because of it being SO easy to get OP items from being AFK...

You can't hide printers because of shity scan master, can't actually psg fight without them putting on a suit or gluoning your ass since gems gave so many unskilled players MONEY for not doing anything, it means people start doing this all day, make money by jackpots or selling, and never print. And after the update they have 13 broken ass suits and teleport into your base and ruin it everyday.

this thread is full of so much drama even studiobanter stopped the banter.

Gems weren't good at all.