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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206917

I have created A Compilation of ban reasons and the time that I recommended for the offence. remember in the end you choose how long ow believe the ban should be this is just a help full guide if you are stuck on how long you should ban this rule breaker. feel free to post suggestions. in the end these are just some suggestions and as walrus said
To conclude, use common sense and figure out a reasonable calculation of a ban length.

Mass RDM (x5k) = 1 week + - You need to try to catch the RDMER as fast as you can so i would warn him first and if he later continues to RDM and kill everyone I would ban him for 1 week or if he RDM's 20 people I would give him a permanent ban.
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Prop spam = Permanent (Depending on the severalty ) - Prop spam (depending on the props and how many ) is permanent because if he really wanted to play on the server and not ruin the experience for other people he would appeal the ban.
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Hacking = Permanent - If some one is hacking it is a permanent ban because we don't tolerate hackers and he can later appeal as so he wishes.
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Racism = 1 day to Permanent- Racism needs a warn first and if he continues another but depending on what he is saying determines the ban because if he keeps saying the n word that would be 1 day but if he goes around being massively racist i would call that 2 weeks and of cause if he makes death threats to do with race that is permanent.
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Prop minge = Permanent (depending on the prop) - Similar to prop spam warn him first but later if he continues to swing around a large prop to lag the server i would give him a permanent ban and if he wishes he can appeal later
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DDOS threats = Permanent - DDOS threats would be permanent but remember that if the threat doesn't happen on team speak or in game you cant ban for it e.g. some one on Skype.
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Exploiting = Permanent - Usually I will give a verbal warning if they find a exploit (or use a known one )and use it but later i will warn them and if they continue ban them .
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Mic spam = 1 day - depending on what the mic spamming is saying i will first ask them to stop then if they continue warn them and mute their mic if they continue i will give them 1 day
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leaving to avoid punishment = 1 day - if you take some one into a sit and they know its a sit and they disconnect ( not time out ) I would give them one day
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Mass CDM (5k+) = 1 week + - Of cause warn them first and if they cdm because of lag suggest for them not to drive a car . if they go around trying to run as many people over as they can then ban them 1 week per 5 kills or so.
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Death threats = Permanent - Again depending on how serious the threat is death threats are usually permanent but the situation might differ
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Mass rda 1 week- Like rdm and cdm mass rda is usually 1 week or so but i would try to catch them early to explain that it is against the server rules and warn them for it and if they just don't care and rda 5 people i would ban them
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206918

Some of these are very harsh, also we warn people for hacking before we ban them.
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206922

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Some of these are very harsh, also we warn people for hacking before we ban them.

I agree with some of those punishments being a bit harsh (and some over the top).

And since when.

If someone is spinbotting, aimbotting, we don't say "Het buddy, can you stop hacking? We'd appreciate it so that you don't have an unfair advantage.", we say "Hacking is not tolerated on our servers. You can make a ban appeal on our forums, and we may reduce your ban if you seem sorry enough." And then ban them permanently.

I don't get the logic in that. It's like VAC giving a message to a hacker in CS, saying "We'd appreciate it if you'd stop hacking.", only for the hackers to hop back into a game and ruin people's game.
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206937

It's really up to the staff member himself/herself that choosen the punishment at the end, so this is not very needed however it might help new admins i guess
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206938

No.

Never.

Do not encourage permanent bans for ddos threats / death threats.

And you have to examine the context of many rule breaks, whether it was an accident or someone who booted up gmod just to troll.
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206939

More people fighting over SA
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206941

Although I'm sure we all appreciate the fact that you're trying to help new Admins, but it's entirely up to your own common sense on how long to ban them.

Did they break a serious rule, ban them for longer!
Did they break a minor rule, ban them for shorter!
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206942

Kristofferson wrote:
More people fighting over SA

I'm still waiting for a guide on how to open the pickle jar.
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206990

I feel like we have admins being try hards at trying to get sa before the next meeting witch is crazy in my opinion I think all the staff shouldn't be try hards at trying to get sa they should all work together and equally work there way up to the sa rank not be s try hard making these forums about ban times and staff guides. These guides are not needed if they have a question about something they could jump on ts or as another staff member on the server or on steam.
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206995

matthewdurbinmonday1998 wrote:
I feel like we have admins being try hards at trying to get sa before the next meeting witch is crazy in my opinion I think all the staff shouldn't be try hards at trying to get sa they should all work together and equally work there way up to the sa rank not be s try hard making these forums about ban times and staff guides. These guides are not needed if they have a question about something they could jump on ts or as another staff member on the server or on steam.

Yeah, they're not even following the guide to making guides!
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #206999

Thanks for stealing my idea.
And making it all alone...
You done for me!
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207004

i dont think this thread is covered well enough for me to sticky it, i like the idea though
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207007

Keith Cozart wrote:
i dont think this thread is covered well enough for me to sticky it, i like the idea though

can u sticky my guide plz
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207009

Exrobite wrote:
Keith Cozart wrote:
i dont think this thread is covered well enough for me to sticky it, i like the idea though

can u sticky my guide plz

He's not Moderator in the "Help" section.
Beg to Redpowder/EMP to do that for you.
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207010

Fennster4 wrote:
Exrobite wrote:
Keith Cozart wrote:
i dont think this thread is covered well enough for me to sticky it, i like the idea though

can u sticky my guide plz

He's not Moderator in the "Help" section.
Beg to Redpowder/EMP to do that for you.

Is anyone mod in the help section?Kappa
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207021

To conclude, use common sense and figure out a reasonable calculation of a ban length.
Was that so hard?
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207157

Wise words from Walrus.

But the competition for DarkRP SA is starting to get good...
Just waiting for the Demote Requests to start.
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207164

KingofSaiyans wrote:
Wise words from Walrus.

But the competition for DarkRP SA is starting to get good...
Just waiting for the Demote Requests to start.

No, our staff is mature enough to not try and get eachother demoted to get a better chance at SA.

I hope.
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207167

Fennster4 wrote:
KingofSaiyans wrote:
Wise words from Walrus.

But the competition for DarkRP SA is starting to get good...
Just waiting for the Demote Requests to start.

No, our staff is mature enough to not try and get eachother demoted to get a better chance at SA.

I hope.

One can hope
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[SSRP] appropriate ban lengths 8 years 6 months ago #207168

Fennster4 wrote:
KingofSaiyans wrote:
Wise words from Walrus.

But the competition for DarkRP SA is starting to get good...
Just waiting for the Demote Requests to start.

No, our staff is mature enough to not try and get eachother demoted to get a better chance at SA.

I hope.

Nope.
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