TOPIC: [SSRP] POLL!

This is a poll to bring back server 2, please vote yes or no, dont shit post and please post constructive feedback when replying!

Note: this poll will be open until the 14th of October, a week from now!

Note: If server 2 were to be added back in then what ideas do you guys have for it? Server 2 went down because of the lack of players, we obviously need new map ideas for it, something different from server 1.

Wasn't server 2 the AFK mining server?

Jim_Jam wrote: yes it was. I believe they made the right choice opening up the server slot for the classic server.

idc about s2 but removing evocity ??????????

Why do you want S2 back?

It was only ever used by people AFK mining and, at the time of this discussion last night, had 4 players on.

.uzi wrote: the changes youve made have just removed any possibility of new players actually playing the game, if you kept s2 but removed evocity or vice versa it wouldn't have been an issue, but doing them both makes it impossible to get going as a new player, so either the restoration of s2 or evocity is pretty much a necessity + s2 has a lot of nostalgia for a lot of people

also imo the fact that the community wasnt consulted on such a decision is appalling and simply poor management

sorIe wrote:
You would still be able to mine on S1 or S3.

People have been complaining about AFK mining and its role in screwing the economy when people use alts to mine for hours, sometimes even days, on end and when we cut out S2 from the equation which, at the time, is barely popular and only used for AFK mining, people complain?

This decision is part of a larger strategy that I won't shed much on as it's confidential but it gives us a spare slot to work with, whether it's for ZARP Classic in the future or something entirely different.

EDIT:

Why consult the community on shutting down a server they don't play on? AFK mining is not even playing, it's just an alleyway for free money, which people complained about.

Do we need to set up a poll everytime a server loses popularity? Can we not use our own judgement and make educated decisions based on statistics?

.uzi wrote: Can the CC be let into this a lil smidgen?

Why it's just a waste if space

sorIe wrote:
The CC is for them to bring ideas to us we still have to take control sometimes and discuss what is the best for the server within the CM Team and if we have any doubts then we can outsource it to the CC but we talked about this and all agreed it was the right thing to do

.uzi wrote: people complain because the decision is combined with the removal of evocity - its almost impossible to mine/base for any decent period on the s1 map simply because of how small it is so rulebreakers/established players will have no issues in rdming miners/finding hidden printers, shutting down new players massively

the ability to mine at all isnt the issue, its moreso the ability to mine in relative safety - mining by no means caused the damage to the economy that is apparent now as it quite literally cant contribute to the hyperinflation, which is the root issue currently - in its current state it actually counteracts it by taking money out of the economy - new players are granted no safety and will have no reliable way to progress

DEADMONSTOR wrote: i mean if you genuinely think the joint decision to remove evocity and s2 is the right thing to do after working so hard to make the gamemode more accessible then i dont know what to say

if you put so much effort into allowing new players to progress then remove two of the biggest avenues through which they would progress

additionally, how do you not see the controversy this would cause when done without consultation of even the cc for such a drastic change?

sorIe wrote:
Having servers that don't have half the new content on that we are developing only impacts them servers. Understandably it was a bigger map that enabled you to print on however what makes us not just changing the map we have on the main server to something more basing could be done on. Nobody wants to HAVE to go on other servers to progress through the game and that is why we are making them all the same then balance them out so that all servers have the ability to be used for every piece of content we add

.uzi wrote: as ive stated before, shutting down s2 isnt the issue, its the joint action of shutting down s2 and getting rid of evocity

mining is the last avenue left for a new player to encounter any level of genuine progress, so by shutting down an alleyway to "free money" you shut down the only alleyway for new players to progress

DEADMONSTOR wrote: but then there needs to be some heavy revamps to the balance of money-making and how its done, because right now new players are left completely stuck without any sort of decent weaponry and its in no way balanced

sorIe wrote:
Which is why I have said that they need to all be balanced to fit on all servers and the easiest way of doing that is to have the same map and the same content on each server to that we can only balance for one server and making basing easier on the main map that we are constantly updating. Just because it is harder now doesn't mean their won't be changed in the future that will fix these issues to make it easier

DEADMONSTOR wrote: you dont have the option to make changes for the long-term without any sort of short-term compromise right new, ssrps in rather dire conditions and this really wont help short-term, so the chance of even seeing a long-term is heavily lowered

this feels like it was rushed out without due thought or compromise considered, i definitely see the beneficial side for the long-term but something needs to happen now so that the beneficial side can actually come to fruition

CM and CC acting like The Verge's journalist rn frfr

I’d rather have s2 become classic but we need evocity or at least a new map