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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142462

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SUMMER UPDATE 2019 JESUS I WAIT
chute and me met in england over the week and as we walked out of the pub after a nice night we stood in the light over the beaming street lights as cars strolled down the street at 2 AM and he told me the update isnt happening.

I was also at this executive meeting and I can't assure everyone the summer update will never happen because and I'm quoting this "zarp doesn't do seasonal updates"
ah yes what a good night you must of been blurred from all the alcohol i intook, i could only remember Chutes beautiful, bright face

All I remember was the promise of leadership and power. By this i mean the sketch that chute did on the drinks coaster of my name on the zarp teamspeak with my rightful yellow goldish star to the right of my name.
ah yes, and then the heavens parted and the light shone down on rob, our rightful divine leader
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142503

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I think SSRP is too far gone at this point, I would like to be proven wrong though.
buddy we just need to remove garry's mod servers out of Zarp and let Zarp grow over more popular multiplayer games lol

FORTNITE :zarp: :zarp: :zarp: :zarp:
you cant have private / public servers on fortnite you minge splinter

FORTNITE :zarp: :zarp: :zarp: :zarp:
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142547

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bring back summer 2016 and 17
22 Jul 2017
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142586

To be honest, I think it is time for Zarp to throw in the towel :(
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142638

Markus Chellwigg wrote:
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bring back summer 2016 and 17
22 Jul 2017
get fucked
don’t judge somebody on their forum join rather than their game join :angry: :P B)
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142650

You all might wanna elaborate with "go back to 2015/2016/2017 as some people might not have been there.
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142652

Bruh just let the server die it's over. No one's coming back no matter what. Just let it end instead of trying to poke the dead horse over and over lol
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142760

i feel like a severely underrated issue currently within the staff across the community is the hostility towards users

example of a LT member here:



left out the name because it's of no relevancy to the issue, this isnt mean't to be a witch hunt & it's spread across a very large majority of staff members on every server - such an issue goes as far up the ranks as community owner

when i had a similar attitude when i was staff it was considered an expection and something that needs to be worked on, now such an abrasive attitude is considered the norm and i feel like as a community we severely underrate the impact of the impression that this gives to newer players

it's simply toxic and something that needs to be ironed out if we want any decent level of player retention
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142763

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i feel like a severely underrated issue currently within the staff across the community is the hostility towards users

example of a LT member here:



left out the name because it's of no relevancy to the issue, this isnt mean't to be a witch hunt & it's spread across a very large majority of staff members on every server - such an issue goes as far up the ranks as community owner

when i had a similar attitude when i was staff it was considered an expection and something that needs to be worked on, now such an abrasive attitude is considered the norm and i feel like as a community we severely underrate the impact of the impression that this gives to newer players

it's simply toxic and something that needs to be ironed out if we want any decent level of player retention

It is surprising that people convey themselves this way when there are better ways of going about it. I've almost certainly done this before and I'm sure I had no valid to act in such a manner whatsoever; nor does anyone else. Honestly. if you catch yourself being toxic or just unnecessarily mean, it's as simple as editing your message or apologizing if the damage is already done.

I hope we are able to fix this issue because it generally isn't difficult if you have a genuine care for the community.
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142772

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i feel like a severely underrated issue currently within the staff across the community is the hostility towards users

example of a LT member here:



left out the name because it's of no relevancy to the issue, this isnt mean't to be a witch hunt & it's spread across a very large majority of staff members on every server - such an issue goes as far up the ranks as community owner

when i had a similar attitude when i was staff it was considered an expection and something that needs to be worked on, now such an abrasive attitude is considered the norm and i feel like as a community we severely underrate the impact of the impression that this gives to newer players

it's simply toxic and something that needs to be ironed out if we want any decent level of player retention

I’m going to be dealing with this specific example very soon, just an FYI
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142776

me i want the summer update 2019 plsss
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142804

bring back 2015 before boosters where it was only m9k special weapons
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142840

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bring back 2015 before boosters where it was only m9k special weapons
You mean like, no suits or overpowered suits?
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142846

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bring back 2015 before boosters where it was only m9k special weapons
You mean like, no suits or overpowered suits?
nothing like that no tguns no nothing just m9k specialweapons
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142854

SorIe wrote:
i feel like a severely underrated issue currently within the staff across the community is the hostility towards users

example of a LT member here:



left out the name because it's of no relevancy to the issue, this isnt mean't to be a witch hunt & it's spread across a very large majority of staff members on every server - such an issue goes as far up the ranks as community owner

when i had a similar attitude when i was staff it was considered an expection and something that needs to be worked on, now such an abrasive attitude is considered the norm and i feel like as a community we severely underrate the impact of the impression that this gives to newer players

it's simply toxic and something that needs to be ironed out if we want any decent level of player retention

Couldn't agree more to be honest.

One of the issues within the community which I personally want to work on and try to solve or at least lessen is to bring back the friendly spirit that the community had back in 2016 when I first joined. The main thing that really drew me into the community, and I'm sure the same can be said for others, was how remarkably friendly everyone was, users and staff alike.

It seems like, over the years, this has really changed a lot. People don't uphold this same standard anymore and the majority of staff and Lead Team members (myself included at times) have let the toxicity really get to them, which has just caused it to spread more and more. All that this kind of attitude does is push players away, especially if it was what brought people in before.

The difficulty is that it isn't really a clear-cut thing, and can also be incredibly fragile. We can't just demote people for getting angry at people for harassing them or straight up ban people for it, or it just gets worse, as has been seen over time. If anyone does have any suggestions or specifics that they want addressed though, I'd be more than happy to discuss it over Steam or Discord (TheXnator#7954) and see what we can do to make some real progress on it.

I think one of the reasons that this has become a problem is that a lot of people have really just lost the interest and dedication that they had before, perhaps from becoming bored of the servers or the community itself and turn to trolling and pissing about instead, and issues like this can really easily trickle down from minor things higher up.

Regarding the actual content of the servers, I feel like ZARP is still a little bit old-fashioned in ways. If you take a look at other servers or gmodstore itself, there are a lot of popular addons which ZARP doesn't really have the content to match. Drug production is a massively popular aspect of DarkRP servers, and ZARP's drugs aren't very in-depth at all. A good content creator to look at would be "Zerochain" - all of his addons have a level of grinding / progression to them, and that's something which I think would really add to ZARP if we had something similar (example: www.gmodstore.com/market/view/zero-s-grow-op-weed-script).

Things like this which require actual focus on production will most likely help out the gameplay and RP aspect but also the economy, forcing people to actually do something rather than simply sit and AFK mine (I have also given some ideas to DEADMONSTOR about mining to tackle the idea of AFK mining which I will probably add here at some point to see what people think about them or make a proper suggestion thread). If people are forced to focus on things like this too, there would be more sustenance to basing rather than sitting in front of entrances to bases whilst leaving printers to do their thing. People would be forced to come back and tend to things like drug plants and, if a raid lasted for too long, they would have to try to balance this with their defence.
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142867

SorIe wrote:
i feel like a severely underrated issue currently within the staff across the community is the hostility towards users

example of a LT member here:



left out the name because it's of no relevancy to the issue, this isnt mean't to be a witch hunt & it's spread across a very large majority of staff members on every server - such an issue goes as far up the ranks as community owner

when i had a similar attitude when i was staff it was considered an expection and something that needs to be worked on, now such an abrasive attitude is considered the norm and i feel like as a community we severely underrate the impact of the impression that this gives to newer players

it's simply toxic and something that needs to be ironed out if we want any decent level of player retention


I'm not ashamed nor uncomfortable with people knowing that this was me, my approach wasn't the best and certain people failed to get why I said what I said. I talked to uzi about this and everything turned out fine in the end. This would be the first time since the beginning of 2019 (7 months) that I caused an inconvenience when it comes to something such as this...

I'm unaware as to how old you are nor if you know what yet awaits you in the future. This year I suffered many losses, ran into much trouble when it came to applying for jobs, stress, studying for many many hours, insufficient sleep, and such shit accumulated. And when it was time for me to go on my PC and relax after a day/week of constant crap, I come on ZARP in hopes of relaxing a bit but the only thing I get is my phone number leaked by a former LT member, called out for bias, corruption get treated like crap and stuff as such for simply fulfilling my duties for which I've voluntarily applied for. I'm not the person most people see me as (Dr. Dick) but you have to understand that after all of this I do tend to be nervous and what happened there was something that I truly haven't meant.

This was no way for me to approach a User and I'm not trying to justify my actions yet just want to make it clear that I'm not just straight up being hostile towards someone due to myself being bored. Hope you are able to understand...
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142869

Richard Hoffmann wrote:
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i feel like a severely underrated issue currently within the staff across the community is the hostility towards users

example of a LT member here:



left out the name because it's of no relevancy to the issue, this isnt mean't to be a witch hunt & it's spread across a very large majority of staff members on every server - such an issue goes as far up the ranks as community owner

when i had a similar attitude when i was staff it was considered an expection and something that needs to be worked on, now such an abrasive attitude is considered the norm and i feel like as a community we severely underrate the impact of the impression that this gives to newer players

it's simply toxic and something that needs to be ironed out if we want any decent level of player retention


I'm not ashamed nor uncomfortable with people knowing that this was me, my approach wasn't the best and certain people failed to get why I said what I said. I talked to uzi about this and everything turned out fine in the end. This would be the first time since the beginning of 2019 (7 months) that I caused an inconvenience when it comes to something such as this...

I'm unaware as to how old you are nor if you know what yet awaits you in the future. This year I suffered many losses, ran into much trouble when it came to applying for jobs, stress, studying for many many hours, insufficient sleep, and such shit accumulated. And when it was time for me to go on my PC and relax after a day/week of constant crap, I come on ZARP in hopes of relaxing a bit but the only thing I get is my phone number leaked by a former LT member, called out for bias, corruption get treated like crap and stuff as such for simply fulfilling my duties for which I've voluntarily applied for. I'm not the person most people see me as (Dr. Dick) but you have to understand that after all of this I do tend to be nervous and what happened there was something that I truly haven't meant.

This was no way for me to approach a User and I'm not trying to justify my actions yet just want to make it clear that I'm not just straight up being hostile towards someone due to myself being bored. Hope you are able to understand...

I can definitely understand where you're coming from and the root causes of such a thing; I've been in stressful positions in the past that have caused me to act out on ZARP. However, in this scenario, I don't actually consider you the issue. Such an attitude has become extremely normalised over time, so the issue at its core definitely doesn't lie with you, it's moreso an accumulation effect over time of stuff like this from other people, to the point where it no longer causes concern for the poster before posting it, or with the staff team when posted.

TL;DR: I don't blame you specifically, it's everyone's fault.
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142871

Another very large turnoff that I've noticed in recent times is a strive to be stricter within most staff teams.

Permanent punishments are being handed out very readily from what I've witnessed, when simply put the player count doesn't support it

It seems like we're striving for the level of strictness from 2015-early 2016, however it's entirely misplaced. Instead of banning people for shit like mass RDM and mingery, we're handing out permanent bans to any, even insignificant, repeat offenders, and offering "compromises" which essentially act as probation in the way that they serve to be mental imprisonment and make the server much less fun as you're constantly on edge.

There's a time and place for extreme punishment and that's extreme cases, not every case.
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142875

Few points:

Alts must be prohibited to get the server going again.

There must be a way of sinking money fast and efficiently, even if that means a lot of suits will be added, the gap between new players and old players must be closed somehow.

And IMO permanent bans are just handed out way too often instead of just month or two etc. (no im not talking about my own ban, just general thought.)
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Community Discussion - What do you want? 4 years 8 months ago #1142892

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Few points:

Alts must be prohibited to get the server going again.

And IMO permanent bans are just handed out way too often instead of just month or two etc. (no im not talking about my own ban, just general thought.)


More bans like a month ban, or a few months bans should be given out
not a instant permanent ban
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