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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976159

okey so today
i was going to arreste some one then he dropped his big gun i pick it and went to arreste him then got killed is this a rule break or no
some of players are saying its allowed cuz you are cop if you are irl and you see a gun in the floor you pick it up
some of them say its like stealing gun and idk so what is it
i want a high rank staff like head admin or owner or cm so i can make sure
you can reply and say what do you think
PS : he was using the gun and he dropped it and pick it
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976162

I think picking up a gun from the floor is stealing unless he dropped it from his hands, just my openion tho
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976163

Tamaninja wrote:
I think picking up a gun from the floor is stealing unless he dropped it from his hands, just my openion tho
he dropped it from his hands he was using it
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976165

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I think picking up a gun from the floor is stealing unless he dropped it from his hands, just my openion tho
he dropped it from his hands he was using it
So I'd say aslong as he is not a cop this is not stealing as the gun is illegal
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976174

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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976222

I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976224

Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.
onion said its allowed to pick up any gun , spiecal even you are a cop
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976225

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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976228

Hecking corrupt cop!!! Warn him!!
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976235

who cares if you play cop just arrest everyone
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976269

Please don't say bullshit, when i was about to drop it, a fucking fgt prop pushed me with the balls, so the jetgun was dropped, i saw you going to arrest me but when you saw my jetgun on the ground, and me far away from it, you just rushed on it.
Then, you stood still, typing something in the chat, and a French rdming gun dealer killed you.
You had to arrest me, no waiting i drop my shit, to take it and then arrest me, that was corruption, in a certain way.
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976278

Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.

That is incorrect. If someone is using an illegal weapon (not including police) it's your duty as a cop to arrest the criminal and take the threatening weapon. So until it is a used gun which they drop from their hand it is fine and the right thing to do. If he drops it from his inventory it's nothing illegal he has done and taking his property is stealing which you shouldn't do.
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976282

Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976283

SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.

That is incorrect. If someone is using an illegal weapon (not including police) it's your duty as a cop to arrest the criminal and take the threatening weapon. So until it is a used gun which they drop from their hand it is fine and the right thing to do. If he drops it from his inventory it's nothing illegal he has done and taking his property is stealing which you shouldn't do.
The priority of a cop, is to attempt to arrest and, KOS if he failed, in that case, he didnt even tried to arrest me, he started running in my direction, and he just waited i drop my jetgun to pick it up, that's corruption
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976284

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Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.

That is incorrect. If someone is using an illegal weapon (not including police) it's your duty as a cop to arrest the criminal and take the threatening weapon. So until it is a used gun which they drop from their hand it is fine and the right thing to do. If he drops it from his inventory it's nothing illegal he has done and taking his property is stealing which you shouldn't do.
The priority of a cop, is to attempt to arrest and, KOS if he failed, in that case, he didnt even tried to arrest me, he started running in my direction, and he just waited i drop my jetgun to pick it up, that's corruption
If he makes no attempt to arrest then yes it is
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976288

SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.

That is incorrect. If someone is using an illegal weapon (not including police) it's your duty as a cop to arrest the criminal and take the threatening weapon. So until it is a used gun which they drop from their hand it is fine and the right thing to do. If he drops it from his inventory it's nothing illegal he has done and taking his property is stealing which you shouldn't do.
We're obviously talking RP, so I'd argue that policemen themselves IRL never keep the other guy's weapon, these are usually delivered to a crime investigation department and kept for forensic tests; afterwards, the gun is saved on a warehouse, somewhere.
So in conclusion, it's perhaps RP to get it before the other guy does but afterwards you must remove it from your inventory, otherwise it's stealing.
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976290

dankek wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.

That is incorrect. If someone is using an illegal weapon (not including police) it's your duty as a cop to arrest the criminal and take the threatening weapon. So until it is a used gun which they drop from their hand it is fine and the right thing to do. If he drops it from his inventory it's nothing illegal he has done and taking his property is stealing which you shouldn't do.
We're obviously talking RP, so I'd argue that policemen themselves IRL never keep the other guy's weapon, these are usually delivered to a crime investigation department and kept for forensic tests; afterwards, the gun is saved on a warehouse, somewhere.
So in conclusion, it's perhaps RP to get it before the other guy does but afterwards you must remove it from your inventory, otherwise it's stealing.
but we can't moderate it if they remove it or not so we can't enforce on it
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976296

SkeletonWarrior wrote:
dankek wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.

That is incorrect. If someone is using an illegal weapon (not including police) it's your duty as a cop to arrest the criminal and take the threatening weapon. So until it is a used gun which they drop from their hand it is fine and the right thing to do. If he drops it from his inventory it's nothing illegal he has done and taking his property is stealing which you shouldn't do.
We're obviously talking RP, so I'd argue that policemen themselves IRL never keep the other guy's weapon, these are usually delivered to a crime investigation department and kept for forensic tests; afterwards, the gun is saved on a warehouse, somewhere.
So in conclusion, it's perhaps RP to get it before the other guy does but afterwards you must remove it from your inventory, otherwise it's stealing.
but we can't moderate it if they remove it or not so we can't enforce on it
It's a weird situation now ain't it, hell, perhaps it shouldn't be allowed for police officers (in ssrp) to pick up weapons like that, the should just shoot them away, that would work out great instead of picking it up.
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976299

dankek wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
dankek wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.

That is incorrect. If someone is using an illegal weapon (not including police) it's your duty as a cop to arrest the criminal and take the threatening weapon. So until it is a used gun which they drop from their hand it is fine and the right thing to do. If he drops it from his inventory it's nothing illegal he has done and taking his property is stealing which you shouldn't do.
We're obviously talking RP, so I'd argue that policemen themselves IRL never keep the other guy's weapon, these are usually delivered to a crime investigation department and kept for forensic tests; afterwards, the gun is saved on a warehouse, somewhere.
So in conclusion, it's perhaps RP to get it before the other guy does but afterwards you must remove it from your inventory, otherwise it's stealing.
but we can't moderate it if they remove it or not so we can't enforce on it
It's a weird situation now ain't it, hell, perhaps it shouldn't be allowed for police officers (in ssrp) to pick up weapons like that, the should just shoot them away, that would work out great instead of picking it up.

This was my line of thinking, Officers don't get to keep confiscated items, they turn them in to evidence. However after rethinking it Skeleton is correct in that we have no real way to enforce such a system.
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is it a rule break or no ? 6 years 11 months ago #976301

Tony Lombardi wrote:
dankek wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
dankek wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Tony Lombardi wrote:
I'm assuming you are talking about a special weapon. You are not allowed to confiscate special weapons from people. It would be considered corrupt to take it from him as it would be stealing and coercion.

That is incorrect. If someone is using an illegal weapon (not including police) it's your duty as a cop to arrest the criminal and take the threatening weapon. So until it is a used gun which they drop from their hand it is fine and the right thing to do. If he drops it from his inventory it's nothing illegal he has done and taking his property is stealing which you shouldn't do.
We're obviously talking RP, so I'd argue that policemen themselves IRL never keep the other guy's weapon, these are usually delivered to a crime investigation department and kept for forensic tests; afterwards, the gun is saved on a warehouse, somewhere.
So in conclusion, it's perhaps RP to get it before the other guy does but afterwards you must remove it from your inventory, otherwise it's stealing.
but we can't moderate it if they remove it or not so we can't enforce on it
It's a weird situation now ain't it, hell, perhaps it shouldn't be allowed for police officers (in ssrp) to pick up weapons like that, the should just shoot them away, that would work out great instead of picking it up.

This was my line of thinking, Officers don't get to keep confiscated items, they turn them in to evidence. However after rethinking it Skeleton is correct in that we have no real way to enforce such a system.
I completely agree, wouldn't a better system be that it's considered stealing? Shooting a gun away in SSRP instead of picking it up makes sense in an RP way, as a police officers IRL do kick guns away (when trying to arrest somebody who has given up).
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