So pushing a person with a crowbar can be claimed as RDM without any context behind it? I find that this vague rule isn't what TTT is about.

I can agree that if you're trying to push a player off the ledge, then the person has a KOS reason to kill you, but just playfully pushing around people with no sense of danger to either party is the same as the ledge scenario is just weird and off for me.

That is a scary rule to implement.

On that note, this crowbar-push rule can be affiliated with the discombulator rule in which if you throw a discombulator away from other players; then it isn't KOS; but if you throw it at a group of people with a sense of dying; then it is KOS.


Clean arguments and cheers.

So pushing a person with a crowbar can be claimed as RDM without any context behind it? I find that this vague rule isn't what TTT is about. I can agree that if you're trying to push a player off the ledge, then the person has a KOS reason to kill you, but just playfully pushing around people with no sense of danger to either party is the same as the ledge scenario is just weird and off for me. [quote] that you pushed her with a crowbar, therefore you were killed which is a valid reason to kill someone[/quote] That is a scary rule to implement. On that note, this crowbar-push rule can be affiliated with the discombulator rule in which if you throw a discombulator away from other players; then it isn't KOS; but if you throw it at a group of people with a sense of dying; then it is KOS. [quote][b]2.6 Invalid KOS reasons[/b] There are many invalid KOS reasons which are not allowed within the server, here are a few; [You should question the player as to why they are declaring a KOS] - A player is AFK [Ask a member of staff to force them to spectate] - Being in a public area [Players are allowed free-roam of the map, you cannot KOS someone for entering a area minus traitor only areas] - A grudge held in a prior game upon a player. - A player has taken damage. - The Traitor has a similar skin/hat to the player in question. [b][u]- The player throws a discombulator/smoke grenade away from other players.[/u][/b] - A player looks at you/follows you [Unless in partnership with rule 2.2] [/quote] Clean arguments and cheers.