Exrobite wrote: It is defaultly there because the Rule's state it as a law that is there, it's there before anything or anyone can change it which makes it "Default". I said this to Max, Is it breaking a rule if you make a law against having pistols out he responded with "That's breaking a rule yes it's under the police rules" I asked Doombringer before, I told him everything that happened in the sit and he said it was breaking a rule. The Head Admin that was asked hadn't known about it so in that case what ever he said doesn't matter, the moderator didn't know either. Just because 2 staff don't know about it including a head admin doesn't mean that you can go and say "if a lead team doesn't know how am I supposed to know" one way....read the rules and actually understand them. It is a rule which is stating "Pistols are legal" Legal is a term used for making laws by saying what is alloed, "illegal" is meaning something that isn't allowed. If its in the rules you cannot go and change what the rules say because you are mayor you even said yourself there isn't anything to tell what is classified as default laws and then you say the default laws are the 3 on the board, If that's the case how is it only those 3 if you said yourself nothing is there to classify what's default or not. If that's the case we should believe that all laws that are defaulty placed for the server are Default laws. 2 Super admins opinions are more valuable then one Head Admins when he didn't even know about the rule.

[quote="Exrobite" post=295115][quote="Gmod Troller" post=295012]You broke a rule today http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=651773988 number 4 was the rule break, it was contradicting the default laws and pistols being legal is defaultly legal thus making it a Default law. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=651774382 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=651774535 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=651774723 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=651774886 Even though it isn't a huge deal I feel you should of been more aware of the rules before you applied (or atleast this rule if you are aware of the others). This probably wont change the verdict this application but I feel that it should be taken to account that you had broken this rule (You were verbally warned but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be a factor in your application). Over all I will go with a [b][size=4][color=#0000bb]-/+Nuetral[/color][/size][/b] as I feel you could make a good staff just have to improve on your trolling and make sure you are aware of all the rules, if you can show the staff team otherwise this probably wont have as big of an affect as it will now (if it affects at all). Either way good luck[/quote] The idea of a default law is not developed upon in the rules. There's no definition and as laws =/= rules I interpreted the rule to say the base 3 rules on the lawboard are the default laws: [ol] [li]Do not attack other citizens except in self defense[/li] [li]Do not steal or break into peoples homes[/li] [li]Money printers/drugs are illegal[/li] [/ol] These are the 3 default laws that cannot be changed. We asked several lead team members and their opinions were also divided on the subject. Without the clarification in the rules about such a niche subject there is no past knowledge on which side of the argument is correct, hence why I was not verbally warned, it was just suggested that I not do it again to avoid this confusion, not due to rules that I did not break.[/quote] It is defaultly there because the Rule's state it as a law that is there, it's there before anything or anyone can change it which makes it "Default". I said this to Max, Is it breaking a rule if you make a law against having pistols out he responded with "That's breaking a rule yes it's under the police rules" I asked Doombringer before, I told him everything that happened in the sit and he said it was breaking a rule. The Head Admin that was asked hadn't known about it so in that case what ever he said doesn't matter, the moderator didn't know either. Just because 2 staff don't know about it including a head admin doesn't mean that you can go and say "if a lead team doesn't know how am I supposed to know" one way....read the rules and actually understand them. It is a rule which is stating "Pistols are legal" Legal is a term used for making laws by saying what is alloed, "illegal" is meaning something that isn't allowed. If its in the rules you cannot go and change what the rules say because you are mayor you even said yourself there isn't anything to tell what is classified as default laws and then you say the default laws are the 3 on the board, If that's the case how is it only those 3 if you said yourself nothing is there to classify what's default or not. If that's the case we should believe that all laws that are defaulty placed for the server are Default laws. 2 Super admins opinions are more valuable then one Head Admins when he didn't even know about the rule.