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Christopher wrote:
You're under the false assumption I'm affiliated with everything that SDGaming does. And where's your proof of ANYTHING you just said? I never provoked Cardigan, and I have plenty of respect for ZARP and its players, why else would I still be here? How about you open your eyes for a moment and look at the proof, rather than falling right to Cardigan's feet., your -support has zero reason to back it up. Stop picking sides, this is about the proof, not who you like, and the proof shows Cardigan is a completely disrespectful staff member.
Veritas wrote:
Jabbe wrote:
If you're even going to try to make a hypocritically negative comment - make it grammatically correct, especially when in the past you have degraded other friends of the community for their English.
This is outside of ZARP and therefore outside of Agent's control. If Agent feels that he wasn't right - he can dispute and discuss with him.
In my opinion - Cardigan WAS over the top, but given the fact that he was evidently provoked and at boiling point, I really don't blame him. People like Sarah and Jabbe (just a few of many names) have been coming back to cause bother. It's not on.
Sure - some people from our community have done it too, and in a recent post by "Konth" - you want us to get hold of our community, and accredit yourself - thinking all of your patrons are "good as gold", but evidently that is not the case, when you can't even control a few admins.
To be honest, it is more difficult for Agent or any other individuals on the management team to muzzle some members who go out the way to damage your community, as we're much bigger and more developed. Don't even begin to compare 'how good you are at maintaining a professional team and civilized community members' when some individuals whom will take a large percentage of your player base obviously contradict it.
Consider it.
You all already left us, and since you have no regard for OUR player base and community - we have no regard for what hurt happens to yours.
Get out.
[size=360:2noo2yvz]-SUPPORT[/size]
12 yrs admin on zarp.
If you're even going to try to make a hypocritically negative comment - make it grammatically correct, especially when in the past you have degraded other friends of the community for their English.
This is outside of ZARP and therefore outside of Agent's control. If Agent feels that he wasn't right - he can dispute and discuss with him.
In my opinion - Cardigan WAS over the top, but given the fact that he was evidently provoked and at boiling point, I really don't blame him. People like Sarah and Jabbe (just a few of many names) have been coming back to cause bother. It's not on.
Sure - some people from our community have done it too, and in a recent post by "Konth" - you want us to get hold of our community, and accredit yourself - thinking all of your patrons are "good as gold", but evidently that is not the case, when you can't even control a few admins.
To be honest, it is more difficult for Agent or any other individuals on the management team to muzzle some members who go out the way to damage your community, as we're much bigger and more developed. Don't even begin to compare 'how good you are at maintaining a professional team and civilized community members' when some individuals whom will take a large percentage of your player base obviously contradict it.
Consider it.
You all already left us, and since you have no regard for OUR player base and community - we have no regard for what hurt happens to yours.
Get out.
[size=360:2noo2yvz]-SUPPORT[/size]
You're under the false assumption I'm affiliated with everything that SDGaming does. And where's your proof of ANYTHING you just said? I never provoked Cardigan, and I have plenty of respect for ZARP and its players, why else would I still be here? How about you open your eyes for a moment and look at the proof, rather than falling right to Cardigan's feet., your -support has zero reason to back it up. Stop picking sides, this is about the proof, not who you like, and the proof shows Cardigan is a completely disrespectful staff member.
Veritas wrote:
Elmer J fap wrote:
How? How was I offensive? Did I tell Cardigan to go die? Did I tell him he was a disgrace to his family? No, I didn't, I added him on Steam to tell him what he told Sarah was unacceptable, regardless of who she is and what she did. I never deleted anything from anywhere, Cardigan deleted his own posts on my steam profile, luckily I took pictures. Provide some proof, Veritas, you have zero credibility here. And you know who else bursted out in rage and told Scottie to die? Hewbiee. He was going to be permabanned for it too, I expect no less for Cardigan.
Christopher wrote:
He's a person and a player regardless of if he went to SD, he has just as much right to say as he pleases as I do.
Cardigan wrote:
She isn't reporting you, I am, get that right. Regardless of what she said, you shouldn't have responded in that way to her, and you sure as hell shouldn't have responded in that way to me.
How about you people look at the evidence rather than all be buddy-buddy with each other.
That's why he brings chat logs to this? Throughout the whole conversation he was critizing my grammar/spelling (over a steam chat) - remember this is Cardigans demote request not Jabbes, he is also very offensive based on players age's and appearance's (even though he has never seen them). Overall he is Extremely offensive - including the fact he shows immaturity nearly all the time, I've seen ten year old's more respectful then this guy.
Now I will stay on topic. Ren was very offensive to Cardigan aswell but he did not have the gutts to keep his texts where they were. He deleted them hours before he put this up. And I know this for a fact since I saw them but did not feel the need to printscreen them. Sarah (And Ren, I am not sure) added Cardigan yesterday after Sarahs immaturity attack here on the forums slightly after i banned and demoted her ingame. Well, Sarah added Cardigan and started talking shit about me, Mr.Fox and Agentlulz. Cardigan who is a friend did not want to be part of this so he bursted out in rage (Which I agree he could have handled prettier) But the provocations they put on Cardigan is foul. I totally understand him with this outburst since Ren, Elmer, Jabbe and Sarah were immature enough to cause this.
How? How was I offensive? Did I tell Cardigan to go die? Did I tell him he was a disgrace to his family? No, I didn't, I added him on Steam to tell him what he told Sarah was unacceptable, regardless of who she is and what she did. I never deleted anything from anywhere, Cardigan deleted his own posts on my steam profile, luckily I took pictures. Provide some proof, Veritas, you have zero credibility here. And you know who else bursted out in rage and told Scottie to die? Hewbiee. He was going to be permabanned for it too, I expect no less for Cardigan.
Christopher wrote:
Archangel wrote:
You left, and the only evident reason that you would be here attempting to take action upon the person is because of the damage he may have inflicted on your friends and new community.
Revenge is childish. Stop trying to seek it.
That goes for all of you SD's trying to cause problems.
should he really be part of the staff?
You left, and the only evident reason that you would be here attempting to take action upon the person is because of the damage he may have inflicted on your friends and new community.
Revenge is childish. Stop trying to seek it.
That goes for all of you SD's trying to cause problems.
He's a person and a player regardless of if he went to SD, he has just as much right to say as he pleases as I do.
Cardigan wrote:
Sarah wrote:
Since I didn't think you would go to this extent of actually reporting me on the forums I actually closed the chat.Even though none of you are part of the zarp staff anymore and you clearly made a fool of yourself on server 1 that evening and posting on the forum about Veritas. If you wanna have more proof then it's just to contact steam and have a chat with them and ask them to send chat logs for the previous week on me and you. Read what Chris said and you might understand what's going on here.
Cardigan when and how exactly did i "smacktalk" your "friends"?
Send proof please.
Send proof please.
Since I didn't think you would go to this extent of actually reporting me on the forums I actually closed the chat.Even though none of you are part of the zarp staff anymore and you clearly made a fool of yourself on server 1 that evening and posting on the forum about Veritas. If you wanna have more proof then it's just to contact steam and have a chat with them and ask them to send chat logs for the previous week on me and you. Read what Chris said and you might understand what's going on here.
She isn't reporting you, I am, get that right. Regardless of what she said, you shouldn't have responded in that way to her, and you sure as hell shouldn't have responded in that way to me.
How about you people look at the evidence rather than all be buddy-buddy with each other.
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