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[TTT] Use the minecraft map with noclip minecarts

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turtleboi wrote:

Davidov007 wrote:

So you're implying the removal of the Poltergeist? As well as a pretty big nerf to the newton launcher? Not only is that a pretty unnecessary change, but also a map change, which as Hazzenator explained, would be detrimental for the server's popularity.

Well, inevitable so, yes. There are way more RDMs and abuses with carts than there are legitimate kills. Maybe someone uses the poltergeist once in 1000 games, and the newton launcher is not really nerfed as it is mostly used to push people off edges. Getting a minecart newton launcher kill means you most likely need someone afk, lined up with the cart, and most likely you will be spotted, so it's not a nerf, it's a change.

Since the name of the map is important, this discussion is dead anyways.

While people don't use the poltergeist that much (which is it's own problem as well, the poltergeist is a super fun weapon!), making a change that negatively affects a weapon is classified as a nerf, so my argument stands.

Since we've reached an understanding about why the minecarts cannot be removed, this topic can now be locked.

Thanks for making the suggestion!

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[quote="turtleboi" post=1300408][quote="Davidov007" post=1300394]So you're implying the removal of the Poltergeist? As well as a pretty big nerf to the newton launcher? Not only is that a pretty unnecessary change, but also a map change, which as Hazzenator explained, would be detrimental for the server's popularity.[/quote]

Well, inevitable so, yes. There are way more RDMs and abuses with carts than there are legitimate kills. Maybe someone uses the poltergeist once in 1000 games, and the newton launcher is not really nerfed as it is mostly used to push people off edges. Getting a minecart newton launcher kill means you most likely need someone afk, lined up with the cart, and most likely you will be spotted, so it's not a nerf, it's a change.

Since the name of the map is important, this discussion is dead anyways.[/quote]
While people don't use the poltergeist that much (which is it's own problem as well, the poltergeist is a super fun weapon!), making a change that negatively affects a weapon is classified as a nerf, so my argument stands.

Since we've reached an understanding about why the minecarts cannot be removed, this topic can now be locked.

Thanks for making the suggestion!

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