I've never seen more repetitively used arguments than on this thread. Both of you just shut the fuck up this obviously isn't going anywhere until it gets handled.

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Anyway, to assess the initial arguments Kyber posed:

First of all, the channel-hopping and harassment is hard to (dis-)prove in this case so I won't be going over that. The first argument that I see has actual accompanying evidence is the claims of racism. While it's easy to dismiss this as a lie because there are no visible plugins on TeamSpeak, you need to account for the possibility of external soundboards being used too. So with that in mind, I fail to see why you couldn't just have attached that screenshot solely to get some leverage. Hence, I won't accept that as a fully valid piece of evidence unless it's further elaborated on.

As for the description, this is a fault on both ends, but you initiated it, and since I don't know the full impact of the descriptions both you and Eddie had, I won't include this as a valid argument either.

Overall, none of these arguments is supported by anything that couldn't be disregarded, so I think the only viable things to do is get together and talk about the situation. While you can't revert a kick, you can both still contemplate on whether or not the punishment was valid. If you're unable to agree with each other, I think the next reasonable thing to do is bring in Void and ask him to assess the situation himself and determine whether or not he believes the punishment was necessary or valid.

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I've never seen more repetitively used arguments than on this thread. Both of you just shut the fuck up this obviously isn't going anywhere until it gets handled. --------------- Anyway, to assess the initial arguments Kyber posed: First of all, the channel-hopping and harassment is hard to (dis-)prove in this case so I won't be going over that. The first argument that I see has actual accompanying evidence is the claims of racism. While it's easy to dismiss this as a lie because there are no visible plugins on TeamSpeak, you need to account for the possibility of external soundboards being used too. So with that in mind, I fail to see why you couldn't just have attached that screenshot solely to get some leverage. Hence, I won't accept that as a fully valid piece of evidence unless it's further elaborated on. As for the description, this is a fault on both ends, but you initiated it, and since I don't know the full impact of the descriptions both you and Eddie had, I won't include this as a valid argument either. Overall, none of these arguments is supported by anything that couldn't be disregarded, so I think the only viable things to do is get together and talk about the situation. While you can't revert a kick, you can both still contemplate on whether or not the punishment was valid. If you're unable to agree with each other, I think the next reasonable thing to do is bring in Void and ask him to assess the situation himself and determine whether or not he believes the punishment was necessary or valid. [size=1]poo poo pee pee come back tomorrow when i've actually revised this assessment[/size]