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Jim_Jam wrote:

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Kyber wrote:

Jim_Jam wrote:

Kyber wrote:

Jim_Jam wrote:

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Eddie. wrote:

nhpkm wrote:

2) so if you cant kill a player for killing a inno , what is this game rule .
if I a T kill an inno , than you kill , I can report you and youll get slayed , is that correct?

as much as I disagree with it, yes, that is now the case following an announcement made by a higher up member of staff. This was in order to give the Ts the element of trickery back when killing an innocent, and give innocents the chance of survival when killing another innocent with valid reason. Like I say as much as I disagree with this change

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It is now a thing.

Also, yes, you have 6 recents.

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That’s not the rules of ttt though, killing an innocent is helping the traitors no matter the reason

It isn’t the rules; it’s the TTT gamemode.

Making it so killing an innocent is KOS no matter what takes away way too much from the gamemode itself. It’s hard to have fun on the server as it is with the same map 24/7.

I’m surprised with the amount of people that disagree with this “change”, it makes playing the server 10x more fun.

That’s my daily “rant” over and done with.

Killing an innocent helps the traitors, and therefore is a traitorous act, making it kosable. Your logic means that I can kill any player and then make up a bs reason and get away with it, where’s the fun when you know exactly who the traitor is and can’t kill them

TTT is a gamemode about finding people’s roles, innocent or traitor. During the round the players have 0 idea about who is what (apart from detective ofc). This means that if a player does something traitorous other players can safely assume they are a T. When they kill this player, whether he was innocent or not, the player that killed them should not be killed since as far as they knew the player was a T

(If this makes no sense I had to rush this. Phone on 1% and no charger RIP)

TTT Server Rules wrote:

2.4 T-Baiting as an Innocent
When in-game you cannot commit traitorous acts as innocent/detective. For example, you cannot shoot nearby players to “scare” them, push people near or off ledges or do anything that possibly harms the innocent team

Elaborate on how killing an innocent isn’t harming the innocents chances of winning. Because that only helps the traitors and is therefore a traitorous act.

You keep on saying this and honestly, it doesn’t make any sense to me. The player that committed the traitor acts which resulted in their death is helping the the T’s much more than the player that killed them.

I’ll bring the rules onto this too. Look at the valid KOS reasons. These are all reasons for you to validly kill someone. What you are saying is if an innocent commits one of these acts and is killed for it, the player that killed them should also be killed. With the previous “rule” in place, a domino affect then be caused and multiple innocent people will die all because that one player committed one single traitorous act. Surely getting multiple people killed is “helping the traitors” much more than simply killing one of them.

Anyway I’m done with discussing this, it’s a staff report after all. Just read over the screenshot about the announcement and understand it before playing on the server.

Add me on steam if you want to talk more about this. Not sure if you’re just being you and causing “discussions” for no reason.

steamcommunity.com/id/Yim_Yam

This reminds me when I just came back to TTT before and I became admin and had a HUGE argument with Dodo about this. I was basically saying what you're saying and Dodo said what Kyber's saying. Raeker and AEK agreed with me after some time (well Raeker was kinda 50/50) but Dodo and his AnGang didn't.

Good times, glad they removed the "don't kill an innocent no matter what" rule.

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[spoiler][quote="Jim_Jam" post=1111819][spoiler][quote="Kyber" post=1111802][quote="Jim_Jam" post=1111700][quote="Kyber" post=1111685][quote="Jim_Jam" post=1111679][quote="Kyber" post=1111659][quote="Eddie." post=1111652][quote="nhpkm" post=1111642]
2) so if you cant kill a player for killing a inno , what is this game rule . 
if I a T kill an inno , than you kill , I can report you and youll get slayed , is that correct? 
[/quote] as much as I disagree with it, yes, that is now the case following an announcement made by a higher up member of staff.  This was in order to give the Ts the element of trickery back when killing an innocent, and give innocents the chance of survival when killing another innocent with valid reason. Like I say as much as I disagree with this change [spoiler]or as Xnator put it: https://gyazo.com/fd7c39b374df12fc86e313df5fff607d[/spoiler] It is now a thing.

Also, yes, you have 6 recents.
[spoiler]https://gyazo.com/e81330c93af77532e7c579b304afd5fe[/spoiler][/quote]
That’s not the rules of ttt though, killing an innocent is helping the traitors no matter the reason[/quote]

It isn’t the rules; it’s the TTT gamemode.

Making it so killing an innocent is KOS no matter what takes away way too much from the gamemode itself. It’s hard to have fun on the server as it is with the same map 24/7.

I’m surprised with the amount of people that disagree with this “change”, it makes playing the server 10x more fun.

That’s my daily “rant” over and done with. :)[/quote]
Killing an innocent helps the traitors, and therefore is a traitorous act, making it kosable. Your logic means that I can kill any player and then make up a bs reason and get away with it, where’s the fun when you know exactly who the traitor is and can’t kill them[/quote]

TTT is a gamemode about finding people’s roles, innocent or traitor. During the round the players have 0 idea about who is what (apart from detective ofc). This means that if a player does something traitorous other players can safely assume they are a T. When they kill this player, whether he was innocent or not, the player that killed them should not be killed since as far as they knew the player was a T

(If this makes no sense I had to rush this. Phone on 1% and no charger RIP)[/quote]
[quote=TTT Server Rules][b]2.4 T-Baiting as an Innocent[/b]
When in-game you cannot commit traitorous acts as innocent/detective. For example, you cannot shoot nearby players to “scare” them, push people near or off ledges or [b]do anything that possibly harms the innocent team[/b][/quote]
Elaborate on how killing an innocent isn’t harming the innocents chances of winning. Because that only helps the traitors and is therefore a traitorous act.[/quote][/spoiler]

You keep on saying this and honestly, it doesn’t make any sense to me. The player that committed the traitor acts which resulted in their death is helping the the T’s much more than the player that killed them.

I’ll bring the rules onto this too. Look at the valid KOS reasons. These are all reasons for you to validly kill someone. What you are saying is if an innocent commits one of these acts and is killed for it, the player that killed them should also be killed. With the previous “rule” in place, a domino affect then be caused and multiple innocent people will die all because that one player committed one single traitorous act. Surely getting multiple people killed is “helping the traitors” much more than simply killing one of them.

Anyway I’m done with discussing this, it’s a staff report after all. Just read over the screenshot about the announcement and understand it before playing on the server.

Add me on steam if you want to talk more about this. Not sure if you’re just being you and causing “discussions” for no reason. ;)

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Yim_Yam[/quote][/spoiler]
This reminds me when I just came back to TTT before and I became admin and had a HUGE argument with Dodo about this. I was basically saying what you're saying and Dodo said what Kyber's saying. Raeker and AEK agreed with me after some time (well Raeker was kinda 50/50) but Dodo and his AnGang didn't.

Good times, glad they removed the "don't kill an innocent no matter what" rule.

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