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Kyber wrote:

Rick Johnson wrote:

Kyber wrote:

Rick Johnson wrote:

Kyber wrote:

Rick Johnson wrote:

Kyber wrote:

Rick Johnson wrote:

I think as long as you don't get any more punishments before the meeting you will have a shot at getting the position. I can't say I've talked or played with you in-game, but basing my opinion on your activity, application, and your recent punishment I'm going with a neutral stance for the time being. I'm open to you getting the position, but because of your recent ban (offline warning?) I can't currently support you fully.

Good luck!

I think a warning for racism is a pretty serious punishment though

At the time of the meeting, this punishment won't actually be a recent punishment anymore though

Nah, it’ll still be recent by like 2 hours I’m pretty sure

I mean that's a pretty binary mindset you have right there if you believe two hours will differ. I wouldn't count it, especially when taking Micky's comments into consideration lol

A punishment for racism shouldn’t be overlooked, why on earth you want to overlook that is beyond me, regardless of how long after the meeting until it expires.

I mean my stance on his application is still neutral so I'm clearly not overlooking it. You're right in saying that racism is a serious offence, but given the circumstances, there's hardly any harm done - if any. If you can't differentiate between someone who is actually racist and someone who ignorantly used a racist term in a gang chat I have a hard time understanding why you have a lead team position in the first place. We clearly don't see eye-to-eye on this, but the grounds on which you want to deny him are kind of stupid given the circumstances in my opinion.

There’s a reason racism had a zero tolerance tolerance policy, meaning it is strictly forbidden from the servers. We don’t see eye to eye on this issue, but racism should not be overlooked in any way due to the severity of the rule break, it’s recent, and I’d honestly take racism punishments more seriously when it comes to a staff team.

It is a severe rule break indeed, and that's something I've agreed on throughout this entire argument, however I don't get why you think a (1 week, 6 days and 22 hour(s)) punishment is more valid than a (2 week) punishment to the extent that it makes a difference. That's not how things work. I also disagree with the fact that you are completely ignorant of the difference between actual racist discrimination and a racist term used in a gang chat.

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[quote="Kyber" post=1052136][quote="Rick Johnson" post=1052133][quote="Kyber" post=1052120][quote="Rick Johnson" post=1052118][quote="Kyber" post=1052100][quote="Rick Johnson" post=1052087][quote="Kyber" post=1052080][quote="Rick Johnson" post=1052064]I think as long as you don't get any more punishments before the meeting you will have a shot at getting the position. I can't say I've talked or played with you in-game, but basing my opinion on your activity, application, and your recent punishment I'm going with a neutral stance for the time being. I'm open to you getting the position, but because of your recent ban [size=2](offline warning?)[/size] I can't currently support you fully.

Good luck![/quote]
I think a warning for racism is a pretty serious punishment though[/quote]

At the time of the meeting, this punishment won't actually be a recent punishment anymore though[/quote]
Nah, it’ll still be recent by like 2 hours I’m pretty sure[/quote]

I mean that's a pretty binary mindset you have right there if you believe two hours will differ. I wouldn't count it, especially when taking Micky's comments into consideration lol[/quote]
A punishment for racism shouldn’t be overlooked, why on earth you want to overlook that is beyond me, regardless of how long after the meeting until it expires.[/quote]

I mean my stance on his application is still neutral so I'm clearly not overlooking it. You're right in saying that racism is a serious offence, but given the circumstances, there's hardly any harm done - if any. If you can't differentiate between someone who is [i]actually[/i] racist and someone who ignorantly used a racist term in a gang chat I have a hard time understanding why you have a lead team position in the first place. We clearly don't see eye-to-eye on this, but the grounds on which you want to deny him are kind of stupid given the circumstances in my opinion.[/quote]
There’s a reason racism had a zero tolerance tolerance policy, meaning it is strictly forbidden from the servers. We don’t see eye to eye on this issue, but racism should not be overlooked in any way due to the severity of the rule break, it’s recent, and I’d honestly take racism punishments more seriously when it comes to a staff team.[/quote]

It is a severe rule break indeed, and that's something I've agreed on throughout this entire argument, however I don't get why you think a (1 week, 6 days and 22 hour(s)) punishment is more valid than a (2 week) punishment to the extent that it makes a difference. That's not how things work. I also disagree with the fact that you are completely ignorant of the difference between actual racist discrimination and a racist term used in a gang chat.

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