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CeeZee wrote:

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House wrote:

CeeZee wrote:

In my time being a regular user, you were the most unhelpful staff member I came across. You're very arrogant and refuse to accept you're wrong, even in situations that are like night and day. You never think of the context in any situation, which is just wrong for TTT, it's a gamemode designed around the grey area. You should always be thinking about context. You ignored me multiple times when I came to you with an issue or wanting clarification on something too.

I wanted to talk to you privately once dust had settled between Luki removing a warn you gave me, and sort out this beef between us (moreso you with me), to which I was met with a cocky, head held high attitude, refusing to admit you were even a cunt to me in the first place. A full day later from that mess, you sent me a letter (after our previous conversation had fully ended and it being a day later) which was the most degrading and "I'm above you, and I'm in the wrong, but so are you so we both should be sorry not just me (even though I did nothing wrong to him)" shit I've ever read. You suggested that me going for moderator would show my attitude has improved and everyone I showed that too, me included went "WOT?" how the fuck does that make any sense?

You hardly ever come on the TS, I have heard you speak in game TWICE to which I told everyone at the time and they seemed shocked as they'd NEVER heard you speak.

In conclusion, rant aside. You're not ready. You have a long ways to go in attitude improvement and community involvement before you get there.

:minussp:

Here is what I sent him after we had our conversation, so people may judge by themselves if this
"the most degrading and "I'm above you, and I'm in the wrong, but so are you so we both should be sorry not just me" shit I've ever read"
is true or not.

*click*

I was honestly searching for forgivness & peace between us, tho it appears that you don't want that and I haven't heard from you since I sent it to you. If you wanted to sort things out you could'veat least replied to me but you choose not to, even going as far to turning this against me now which is just pathetic in all honesty.

And just to mention this here: the meeting after I sent this to you I voted yes on your application (even tho it was for Admin) as I truly wanted to give you a chance.
Furthermore I agreed with Luki that the warn was false the next day so there is that.

If I came of as arrogant to you I'm sorry for that but it clearly wasn't meant to come of as such and
if the above quoted sentence is your true opinion about the text I gave you then I don't know what to do anymore to change your mind and I don't think I ever will be able to because like I said, you appear to not want to do that.

House wrote:

Anyway, I won't reply to this here anymore, I don't want this application to turn into an arguing event.
Feel free to accept my steam request or message me via Discord if you want to talk.

This is the "I'm above everyone attitude" I referenced in my message lol.

I did write out a response, but it was in anger at the amount of "UWU its not JUST me ok babe it's both of us" you put in it, so I left it instead of making Henny send it, and I'm still as rightfully annoyed at it as I was then, it came out now because legit everyone I've talked to has pointed out you applied to HA to me today so I thought I'd give my opinion on it here (as I can't in the meetings obviously as I'm only admin) and it's relevant, as it's one of the reasons you should be denied, for the fact you try to compromise on an issue that is completely your own fault, suck it up, say sorry and own up to it and you'll look a lot better

I also don't like the fact you're attempting to use the fact you voted yes and listened to Luki as trump cards here, I mean, you had to accept it from Luki, it was a higher up telling you what was bullshit, as well as voting no on me after what, 4 weeks? Would have been pretty petty as you'd have 0 reason to do that, I stand by my points made that you need more community involvement and better attitude

Longshot wrote:

CeeZe , Ofcourse you can get the impression that someone is unhelpful when you have one of the worst attitudes possible . From what I've seen you on the forums you are the one to always refuse that you are wrong and just continue your own path no matter what , so I find it very hypocritical for you to claim such things against House , someone who put actual work into TTT .

You legit only have this impression from me on the forums, anyone that's spoken to me on TeamSpeak for a night realises me chilling and me addressing serious issues are 2 completely different people.

I go on the forums to shitpost or address serious topics, there is no inbetween, speak to me on TS before making an assumption on how I am 24/7

Fine, if your issue is that I prefer talking something out in private I can lay that aside and talk to you here.

There are always at least two parties involved in an argument so yes of course it is both of us.
I simply said that I don't want to hold grudges against you and that I don't like it if one is beeing held against me (which to me seems you do)
I said that I believe we have gotten of the wrong startingpoint and that is the only point where I say that you are somewhat at fault.
After that I told you why you were denied for attitude, simply laying out an opinion, an opinion other staff share and still do.
And at the end I apologised to you, so I don't see what you are saying with "say sorry and own up to it and you'll look a lot better" because.. I already did.

And accepting =/= agreeing.
Yes of course I have to accept Lukis decision to remove your warning but wether I agree with it or not is a completly different story.
And like I said I did agree that the punishment was false, which I guess is what you meant with "suck it up" & "own up to it". As you can see that has already all happened so what is your point..?

I can only once again encourage people to read it themselves, like I said, it is honest throughout and I certaintly did not mean to attack you with it CeeZee, I really cant believe that you would take this so negativly even tho I only tried to get a fresh start with you.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yo0iopv2CKFdZHUcaz8eAFEAHKw__8cS0ZKwkJZE5ag/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yo0iopv2CKFdZHUcaz8eAFEAHKw__8cS0ZKwkJZE5ag/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yo0iopv2CKFdZHUcaz8eAFEAHKw__8cS0ZKwkJZE5ag/edit?usp=sharing

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[spoiler][quote="CeeZee" post=1038913][spoiler][quote="House" post=1038896][quote="CeeZee" post=1038775]In my time being a[i] regular user[/i], you were the most unhelpful staff member I came across. You're very arrogant and refuse to accept you're wrong, even in situations that are like night and day. You never think of the context in any situation, which is just wrong for TTT, it's a gamemode designed around the grey area. You should always be thinking about context. You ignored me multiple times when I came to you with an issue or wanting clarification on something too.

I wanted to talk to you privately once dust had settled between Luki removing a warn you gave me, and sort out this beef between us [i](moreso you with me)[/i], to which I was met with a cocky, head held high attitude, refusing to admit you were even a cunt to me in the first place. A full day later from that mess, you sent me a letter [i](after our previous conversation had fully ended and it being a day later) [/i]which was the most degrading and [i]"I'm above you, and I'm in the wrong, but so are you so we both should be sorry not just me (even though I did nothing wrong to him)"[/i] shit I've ever read. You suggested that me going for moderator would show my attitude has improved and everyone I showed that too, me included went "WOT?" how the fuck does that make any sense?

You hardly ever come on the TS, I have heard you speak in game [b][i]TWICE[/i][/b] to which I told everyone at the time and they seemed shocked as they'd [b][i]NEVER[/i][/b] heard you speak.

In conclusion, rant aside. You're not ready. You have a long ways to go in attitude improvement and community involvement before you get there.

:minussp:[/quote]

[url=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yo0iopv2CKFdZHUcaz8eAFEAHKw__8cS0ZKwkJZE5ag/edit?usp=sharing]*click*[/url]

I was honestly searching for forgivness & peace between us, tho it appears that you don't want that and I haven't heard from you since I sent it to you. If you wanted to sort things out you could'veat least replied to me but you choose not to, even going as far to turning this against me now which is just pathetic in all honesty.

And just to mention this here: the meeting after I sent this to you I voted yes on your application (even tho it was for Admin) as I truly wanted to give you a chance. 
Furthermore I agreed with Luki that the warn was false the next day so there is that.

If I came of as arrogant to you I'm sorry for that but it clearly wasn't meant to come of as such and
if the above quoted sentence is your true opinion about the text I gave you then I don't know what to do anymore to change your mind and I don't think I ever will be able to because like I said, you appear to not want to do that.[/quote] [/spoiler]

[quote=House]Anyway, I won't reply to this here anymore, I don't want this application to turn into an arguing event. 
Feel free to accept my steam request or message me via Discord if you want to talk.[/quote]

This is the "I'm above everyone attitude" I referenced in my message lol.

I did write out a response, but it was in anger at the amount of [i]"UWU its not JUST me ok babe it's both of us"[/i] you put in it, so I left it instead of making Henny send it, and I'm still as rightfully annoyed at it as I was then, it came out now because legit everyone I've talked to has pointed out you applied to HA to me today so I thought I'd give my opinion on it here (as I can't in the meetings obviously as I'm only admin) and it's relevant, as it's one of the reasons you should be denied, for the fact you try to compromise on an issue that is completely your own fault, suck it up, say sorry and own up to it and you'll look a lot better

I also don't like the fact you're attempting to use the fact you voted yes and listened to Luki as trump cards here, I mean, you had to accept it from Luki, it was a higher up telling you what was bullshit, as well as voting no on me after what, 4 weeks? Would have been pretty petty as you'd have 0 reason to do that, I stand by my points made that you need more community involvement and better attitude

[quote=Longshot]CeeZe , Ofcourse you can get the impression that someone is unhelpful when you have one of the worst attitudes possible . From what I've seen you on the forums you are the one to always refuse that you are wrong and just continue your own path no matter what , so I find it very hypocritical for you to claim such things against House , someone who put actual work into TTT .
[/quote]

You legit only have this impression from me on the forums, anyone that's spoken to me on TeamSpeak for a night realises me chilling and me addressing serious issues are 2 completely different people.

I go on the forums to shitpost or address serious topics, there is no inbetween, speak to me on TS before making an assumption on how I am 24/7[/quote][/spoiler]

Fine, if your issue is that I prefer talking something out in private I can lay that aside and talk to you here.

There are always at least two parties involved in an argument so yes of course it is both of us.
I simply said that I don't want to hold grudges against you and that I don't like it if one is beeing held against me (which to me seems you do)
I said that I believe we have gotten of the wrong startingpoint and that is [u]the only point where I say that you are somewhat at fault[/u].
After that I told you why you were denied for attitude, simply laying out an opinion, an opinion other staff share and still do.
And at the end I apologised to you, so I don't see what you are saying with "say sorry and own up to it and you'll look a lot better" because.. I already did.

And accepting =/= agreeing.
Yes of course I have to accept Lukis decision to remove your warning but wether I agree with it or not is a completly different story.
And like I said I did agree that the punishment was false, which I guess is what you meant with "suck it up" & "own up to it". As you can see that has already all happened so what is your point..?

I can only once again encourage people to read it themselves, like I said, it is honest throughout and I certaintly did not mean to attack you with it CeeZee, I really cant believe that you would take this so negativly even tho I only tried to get a fresh start with you.

[url=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yo0iopv2CKFdZHUcaz8eAFEAHKw__8cS0ZKwkJZE5ag/edit?usp=sharing]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yo0iopv2CKFdZHUcaz8eAFEAHKw__8cS0ZKwkJZE5ag/edit?usp=sharing[/url]

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