The Light Bringer wrote: Collateral damage or crossfire is still deemed RDM as you did not have a valid reason to cause damage to that player. If you are using grenades the risk is a lot higher than with a weapons, you know if you throw a grenade that you have no control over who it may damage once it is thrown. The logic of throwing it to kill a traitor also does not always hold up, an extreme example but if i have dna on someone in a crowded tester and throw an incendiary grenade in there yes i threw it to kill a traitor but it doesn't excuse the fact that other innocents were harmed. While harsh to punish for crossfire it is still valid.

[quote="The Light Bringer" post=1035940]But what happened is clearly different to RDM. It's collateral damage. Happened to me a million times, flew off from tower with discombs, burned by incend, got even shot many times in crossfire, but I have a working brain and can see the difference between a willing rdm and collateral damage.[/quote] Collateral damage or crossfire is still deemed RDM as you did not have a valid reason to cause damage to that player. If you are using grenades the risk is a lot higher than with a weapons, you know if you throw a grenade that you have no control over who it may damage once it is thrown. The logic of throwing it to kill a traitor also does not always hold up, an extreme example but if i have dna on someone in a crowded tester and throw an incendiary grenade in there yes i threw it to kill a traitor but it doesn't excuse the fact that other innocents were harmed. While harsh to punish for crossfire it is still valid.