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Orion wrote:

Miia wrote:

Orion wrote:

Miia wrote:

Orion wrote:

Harry declared an invalid KOS on Prestige, as I've already pointed out and as I pointed out before you shut down the discussion. EDIT: The body was also identified before I shot Harry.

But in that situation a traitor could see that Harry called a false KOS, kill Harry and then be unable to be killed for it. Despite committing a traitorous act he becomes untouchable and protected by the rules.

Yes, that's a risk when innocents RDM other innocents. Harry committed a treasonous offense, so I killed him, as is my right within the confines of the rules. You're saying that all that matters is the outcome, and the context is irrelevant. You're saying that you need to know in advance whether or not someone is an innocent or a traitor, before you can kill them for committing actions that validate KOS's in the first place.

The logic you used to kill Harry would be the same logic i would apply to kill you for killing him. You cannot possible know whether the innocent that Harry KOSed had committed a traitorous act, if he had it would have given Harry a valid reason to KOS them. So despite Harry having a perfectly valid reason to KOS that innocent you still killed him. You did basically the same thing you are arguing should be RDM.

Implicitly, however, Harry said it was OK. I asked in the voice chat if I could kill Harry for false KOS a couple times, and Harry, upon realizing Prestige was an innocent, said that yes, I could shoot him.

So what if Harry said it was OK. If Harry had a valid reason to KOS Prestige for injuring him and then Prestige turns out to be innocent then you still killed Harry when he KOSed someone for a perfectly valid reason. Oh this whole situation seems to be on the staff members fault for attempting to RDM Harry in the first place.

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[quote="Orion" post=1029263][quote="Miia" post=1029260][quote="Orion" post=1029256][quote="Miia" post=1029251][quote="Orion" post=1029243]Harry declared an invalid KOS on Prestige, as I've already pointed out and as I pointed out before you shut down the discussion. EDIT: The body was also identified before I shot Harry.[/quote]
But in that situation a traitor could see that Harry called a false KOS, kill Harry and then be unable to be killed for it. Despite committing a traitorous act he becomes untouchable and protected by the rules.[/quote]

Yes, that's a risk when innocents RDM other innocents. Harry committed a treasonous offense, so I killed him, as is my right within the confines of the rules. You're saying that all that matters is the outcome, and the context is irrelevant. You're saying that you need to know in advance whether or not someone is an innocent or a traitor, before you can kill them for committing actions that validate KOS's in the first place.[/quote]
The logic you used to kill Harry would be the same logic i would apply to kill you for killing him. You cannot possible know whether the innocent that Harry KOSed had committed a traitorous act, if he had it would have given Harry a valid reason to KOS them. So despite Harry having a perfectly valid reason to KOS that innocent you still killed him. You did basically the same thing you are arguing should be RDM.[/quote]
Implicitly, however, Harry said it was OK. I asked in the voice chat if I could kill Harry for false KOS a couple times, and Harry, upon realizing Prestige was an innocent, said that yes, I could shoot him.[/quote]
So what if Harry said it was OK. If Harry had a valid reason to KOS Prestige for injuring him and then Prestige turns out to be innocent then you still killed Harry when he KOSed someone for a perfectly valid reason. Oh this whole situation seems to be on the staff members fault for attempting to RDM Harry in the first place.

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