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dingofetch wrote:

sorIe wrote:

dingofetch wrote:

sorIe wrote:

dingofetch wrote:

sorIe wrote:

dingofetch wrote:

Recently the policy changed and I was brought aside to talk about me being too lenient and not banning for second offense racism because I thought the user didn't mean to do it. While I personally have stated that I do not think it is right, as a staff member, while it is still a rule I will enforce it. I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around following orders I'm given, but that's what staff members are supposed to do.

Seems like you're applying a completely different situation to everything regarding racism and not actually considering the context of Miia's talk with you. With 2 warns in the past hour, a third incident of racism most definitely calls for a ban, and once again your basic interpretation and judgement skills are clouded and completely at fault.

To be clear, it wasn't clouded judgement on my part, I was told instead of warning and gagging the guy who was unintentionally racist, I was supposed to ban him because it was his second offense. If he had only been talked to by a staff member the first time, I wouldn't have known it was his second offense at all and the situation that normally would result in a ban, wouldn't have. If a user breaks a rule they should be punished for it, especially if they are someone who has been around a long time. My warn and gag on CeeZee was a fitting punishment according to the standards I was recently told to go by.

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especially if they are someone who has been around a long time

CeeZee hasn't been here for at least 8 months, and he was DEFINITELY not around when the zero tolerance policy was implemented, so he had no fucking clue lol. You can't expect him to come back and be perfect on something that isn't even within the rule page.

The original punishment I issued was on a brand new user.

In what way is that relevant? That user had been racist three times within an hour period, and you were issuing the third punishment, so that can NOT be compared to this situation in any way, and the fact that you're still grasping at it is rather questionable.

The problem wasn't a third time, Since you're making assumptions about the situation, I'll clear it up for you. I had joined the server after the first punishment was issued, I issued the second punishment and he had apologized to me for it and said it wouldn't happen again. I was then pulled aside and told that instead of just warning and gagging I should have banned the apologetic new user.

My point still stands that since that incident was based on his second offence, it can't be applied to the situation at hand and you need to stop grasping at it.

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[quote="dingofetch" post=1024983][quote="sorIe" post=1024980][quote="dingofetch" post=1024979][quote="sorIe" post=1024978][quote="dingofetch" post=1024974][quote="sorIe" post=1024966][quote=dingofetch]Recently the policy changed and I was brought aside to talk about me being too lenient and not banning for second offense racism because I thought the user didn't mean to do it. While I personally have stated that I do not think it is right, as a staff member, while it is still a rule I will enforce it. I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around following orders I'm given, but that's what staff members are supposed to do.[/quote]

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Seems like you're applying a completely different situation to everything regarding racism and not actually considering the context of Miia's talk with you. With 2 warns in the past hour, a third incident of racism most definitely calls for a ban, and once again your basic interpretation and judgement skills are clouded and completely at fault.[/quote]

To be clear, it wasn't clouded judgement on my part, I was told instead of warning and gagging the guy who was unintentionally racist, I was supposed to ban him because it was his second offense. If he had only been talked to by a staff member the first time, I wouldn't have known it was his second offense at all and the situation that normally would result in a ban, wouldn't have. If a user breaks a rule they should be punished for it, especially if they are someone who has been around a long time. My warn and gag on CeeZee was a fitting punishment according to the standards I was recently told to go by.[/quote]

[quote=dingofetch]especially if they are someone who has been around a long time[/quote]

CeeZee hasn't been here for at least 8 months, and he was DEFINITELY not around when the zero tolerance policy was implemented, so he had no fucking clue lol. You can't expect him to come back and be perfect on something that isn't even within the rule page.[/quote]

The original punishment I issued was on a brand new user.[/quote]
In what way is that relevant? That user had been racist three times within an hour period, and you were issuing the third punishment, so that can NOT be compared to this situation in any way, and the fact that you're still grasping at it is rather questionable.[/quote]

The problem wasn't a third time, Since you're making assumptions about the situation, I'll clear it up for you. I had joined the server after the first punishment was issued, I issued the second punishment and he had apologized to me for it and said it wouldn't happen again. I was then pulled aside and told that instead of just warning and gagging I should have banned the apologetic new user.[/quote]
My point still stands that since that incident was based on his second offence, it can't be applied to the situation at hand and you need to stop grasping at it.

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