Raeker wrote: Please excuse me for being a moron. I went to bed at fucking 4 AM and I honestly am being extremely stupid today. Johnler's post is not wrong and it is not sharing misinformation. It could emphasise a little better that this is purely Johnler's opinion and that the actual punishment is up to the staff member's discretion, however overall there is nothing wrong with that post and it is fairly relevant to what I have written here.

However Johnler's post gives proper examples and scenarios and says the proper action to be taken whilst my post goes deeper into the ins and outs of the ban command and more specifically under what circumstances it should be used. Although I respect Johnler for sharing that guide, it made it more seem like a "I already made this" thing even though these two guides have entirely different perspectives on the subject touching entirely different issues.

Like I stated before, the TTT staff team have had this issue for a very long time now where they practically refuse to ban users. I could point fingers and make accusations as to why that might be, but really there is no point. It is a problem that has to be solved. And as great as Johnler's guide is, it does not solve that problem. What his guide does is help new administrators by giving proper examples of when to use the ban command.

What my guide does is acknowledge and clarify the misconceptions that have been going around for years to solve an issue that allows mass rulebreakers to play on the server. They serve entirely different purposes, which is why I don't understand how you, Jim_Jam, say that his guide is the same as mine "but shorter and clearer so it is better", even though that is an extremely blunt and short-sighted way of putting it.

[quote="Raeker" post=894490][quote="Jim_Jam" post=894480][quote="Raeker" post=894470][quote="Johnler" post=894459]http://zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/ttt/109961-ttt-ban-situations[/quote] I don't see how this is comparable. Like at all.[/quote] What do you mean? That is literally all you said but much shorter and clearer. Besides you can't expect staff to read a whole essay, make it short and sweet.[/quote] What Johnler states in his guide entirely contradicts what I say in this post, so you're completely wrong in saying his guide is what I said but shorter. Although I did assist Johnler when he updated his old ban pastebin into that post, it actually shares a lot of misinformation that will only confuse staff even more, not help them. Also in this case the "short and sweet" version is the staff ethos, but a lot of people misinterpret its meaning and this post explains why that is.[/quote] Please excuse me for being a moron. I went to bed at fucking 4 AM and I honestly am being extremely stupid today. Johnler's post is not wrong and it is not sharing misinformation. It could emphasise a little better that this is purely Johnler's opinion and that the actual punishment is up to the staff member's discretion, however overall there is nothing wrong with that post and it is fairly relevant to what I have written here. However Johnler's post gives proper examples and scenarios and says the proper action to be taken whilst my post goes deeper into the ins and outs of the ban command and more specifically under what circumstances it should be used. Although I respect Johnler for sharing that guide, it made it more seem like a "I already made this" thing even though these two guides have entirely different perspectives on the subject touching entirely different issues. Like I stated before, the TTT staff team have had this issue for a very long time now where they practically refuse to ban users. I could point fingers and make accusations as to why that might be, but really there is no point. It is a problem that has to be solved. And as great as Johnler's guide is, it does not solve that problem. What his guide does is help new administrators by giving proper examples of when to use the ban command. What my guide does is acknowledge and clarify the misconceptions that have been going around for years to solve an issue that allows mass rulebreakers to play on the server. They serve entirely different purposes, which is why I don't understand how you, Jim_Jam, say that his guide is the same as mine "but shorter and clearer so it is better", even though that is an extremely blunt and short-sighted way of putting it.