Nafe wrote:
None of this even gets close to warranting a community ban.
Point One (Countless Appeals):
If I was in his situation where I was writing 2000+ word appeals because I feel I have learnt my lesson and then getting minus supports and denied just because people do not like him I would too make a new appeal despite being told not too, especially if the reason doesn't give me anything to expand on and it was just "play on another one of our servers for 30 days without any warnings" even then that doesn't guarantee you will be unbanned, you will still have appeal your ban after the month is over and chances are you will get denied again, he stated he didn't want to play those servers because he does not enjoy them, I too find all the pointshop servers, especially TTT, Prop Hunt, Murder and Deathrun incredibly mind numbing, so I can understand why he didn't want to play on them every day for a month without being punished and losing his sanity.
Did I mention everyone makes mistakes, so if he was to slip up on TTT for example and kill someone for an invalid reason although he thought it was valid he's not gonna stand a chance with those 30 days because of all the people jumping on the "fuck Stone" bandwagon, then that appealing isn't gonna get accepted is it?
Fyi - You are allowed to make as many appeals as you want, you can't be stopped from making them.
But you're not him. You might change. He will never. Ever. He said that himself, look at the VERY FIRST AND BIGGEST THING in the thread. As for breaking the rules, there's a thing called consequences. The "fuck stone" BANDWAGON is for a reason, and it's not a bandwagon. Tons of people give him a chance, and I think those people are stupid, just basing off the past of Stone. As for pointshop servers being boring, that's super subjective - I HATE the SSRP gamemode it's the most boring shit ever for me, so don't say that it's boring like it's a fact, say it like it's an opinion.
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Point Two (Being Permabanned):
So what if he was permanently banned, like 30% of the players who join SSRP who get perma-banned because they're rule breaking and constantly doing it, I can promise you I will be one of those people if I don't buck up my ideas and stop doing the same. He was banned for scamming, which by the way gets all players and indefinite ban if they do it on SSRP so what makes his case so different? Was it the countless amount of appeals? Most likely...
Again this won't warrant you a community ban, it's only affecting one server, not the community, next point.
"So what if he was perma banned" yea ok. If you got a problem with the rules and their punishments or how they're dealt with, then complain to the CM's, not to me, I go off of what the current situation is and how it works. Perma ban is a perma ban, rules are rules. I don't care if he scammed or he mass RDMed, he broke rules.
Nafe wrote:
Point Three (Lying in his Applications):
I assume this is aimed at the fact he was pretending to be "Mustang" and lying about that, so that's what I am going off.
If I was being targeted by the whole community over a fucking bandwagon I too would make a new account just to escape from the constant harassment, but what did he do as this Mustang person that was wrong? All he did was apply for Moderator and play on a server under a new identity, even when he was helping regardless of the identity all you did was look for the bad in him and make him out to be a bad guy, it's not like he went and mass rule broke under a new account, no he helped, but that's now allowed if you're not a liked person in this community is it?
No, that's not what I was going on about. I was talking about something else, an incident between him and me, when both me and him applied at the same time, but I will respond to your points.
I don't, necessarily, blame him for the "Mustang" thing. It was fairly smart, you start a painting, it turns out to be shit, you start a new one, I've said a few times publicly that I 100% understand why he did it.
Nafe wrote:
Point Four (Your Arrogance):
Just fuck right off, you probably won't read all of this because you hear what you want to hear. In all honesty since his un-ban, he's been 1000% better than he was, but you weren't around in those times so therefore you say "ree this is really bad fuck you".
I don't like him, but I don't go parading about saying how much I hate him and constantly trying to get him banned, if you guys actually took the time to watch the way he does stuff you would understand he is trying to change, if he didn't want to be here and given chances why is he making these sorry threads and 2000+ word appeals?
Just to repeat, I don't like Stone, but the shit you've just said is the downright most stupid shit I've read, less than a quarter of your points are valid, think before you speak, put more point into your arguments.
1. I'm the one usually complaining about people not reading my points. It's sad doing TL;DR's.
2. I've not seen him change one bit. I've asked I believe qwerty or someone to count the amount of apologies he's done and fake promises to become better, and the tally number was 16. 16, public forum posts. 16. Not 1. Not 2. Not 3. Not 4. 16. In this situation, I keep referring to the old saying "Fool me once". As for "being around those times" I don't care about that. The past is the past, the present is what matters, you should only use the past to base yourself in the present, your opinions and decisions. I've mentioned his acts, even put them in a list, and asked, a simple question, why isn't he CM banned?
3. The "parading" I do is exclusively on his Staff applications, Apologies and sometimes appeals, and it's for a good reason. People continuously fall for his "Never gonna do that again I'll try changing" thing, over and over and over and over and over and over again. So, in his posts or posts concerning him and his public image, I just inform others of what type of person he ACTUALLY is, basing my posts ENTIRELY on his past actions. Not the "fuck him lol" thing which you mentioned before me. Again, as mentioned earlier, I suggest you sometimes actually read what I say.
4. Watch him? See him? Him trying to change? Hello? Again, look at the image that I submitted FIRST, THE VERY FIRST THING on this thread.
5. He makes 2000+ word appeals or whatever to see how much he can get away with. You don't NEED 2000+ words. He's serving shit coated in sugar and serving it as icecream, he's done that time and time again. I'm not talking out of my ass, either, if he wasn't, I wouldn't be sitting here, discussing this with you.
6. I'm sure you've read more stupid shit. Less than a quater of my points being false? Empty statement, as they are true.
7. Think before you speak, bla bla bla, I get it, you hate being wrong, so you'll, again, stop reading what I said, and just say my points wrong without proving it wrong, I get it.
Name me the points that you think are wrong, and tell me why you CONFIDENTLY SAY that they're false.
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