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[SSRP] Scamming Rule Change Suggestion 7 years 9 months ago #733183

This is the current rule:
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Scamming

Scamming is the act of stealing money, items or ZARP VIP/Booster Packs from another player through deception or trickery. It is strictly prohibited under the rules and can be punishable by our administration team. Scamming has long been an issue on ZARP, and there is a wide range of scams that range from the obvious to the in-depth and complex. Nearly all scams involve tricking the victim one way or another, although sometimes scammers will exploit the Trade System or other game features or bugs in order to steal other players items.

Gambling games are not considered scamming. If you are not willing to lose your money/items do not participate in gambling.

It is not considered a scam unless money or items are lost or received. Except in the case of agreed upon coinflips or dice rolls.

Administrators must have evidence before punishing players for scamming. If you are unsure ask a community team member to investigate the logs.
I'd like for a new line to be added:
EMP wrote:
Scamming

Scamming is the act of stealing money, items or ZARP VIP/Booster Packs from another player through deception or trickery. It is strictly prohibited under the rules and can be punishable by our administration team. Scamming has long been an issue on ZARP, and there is a wide range of scams that range from the obvious to the in-depth and complex. Nearly all scams involve tricking the victim one way or another, although sometimes scammers will exploit the Trade System or other game features or bugs in order to steal other players items.

Gambling games are not considered scamming. If you are not willing to lose your money/items do not participate in gambling.


It is not considered a scam unless money or items are lost or received. Except in the case of agreed upon coinflips or dice rolls.

For a coinflip or dice roll to be considered valid, the agreed upon price must be fully written out in chat. E.g. instead of "10 million" you would have to write "10.000.000".

Administrators must have evidence before punishing players for scamming. If you are unsure ask a community team member to investigate the logs.
This would mean that users could no longer loophole the scamming rule by typing "10" in chat so that when they win they claim 10 million and when they lose they claim that they only need to pay 10, as that is the agreed upon price.

Note that this is only rule suggestion the way I worded it - any similarily worded rule with the same results would be fine with me too. I just find it sort of pathetic that users can get away with this as it's not considered scamming :/
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[SSRP] Scamming Rule Change Suggestion 7 years 9 months ago #733188

There is no reason to add such a rule just because of 1 incident that was easily resolved
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[SSRP] Scamming Rule Change Suggestion 7 years 9 months ago #733189

Thought this was my comeback...
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[SSRP] Scamming Rule Change Suggestion 7 years 9 months ago #733191

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There is no reason to add such a rule just because of 1 incident that was easily resolved
Not sure what you're talking about. As far as I'm aware Mytic has done this to countless of users and is still continuing to do so.
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[SSRP] Scamming Rule Change Suggestion 7 years 9 months ago #733193

Raeker wrote:
RFlex wrote:
There is no reason to add such a rule just because of 1 incident that was easily resolved
Not sure what you're talking about. As far as I'm aware Mytic has done this to countless of users and is still continuing to do so.
A user should be able to understand the difference between 10$ and 10m$. If they cant then its their fault.

As mentioned in the rules:

Gambling games are not considered scamming. If you are not willing to lose your money/items do not participate in gambling.

Dont participate in them if the rules are unclear.
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[SSRP] Scamming Rule Change Suggestion 7 years 9 months ago #733194

RFlex wrote:
Raeker wrote:
RFlex wrote:
There is no reason to add such a rule just because of 1 incident that was easily resolved
Not sure what you're talking about. As far as I'm aware Mytic has done this to countless of users and is still continuing to do so.
A user should be able to understand the difference between 10$ and 10m$. If they cant then its their fault.

As mentioned in the rules:

Gambling games are not considered scamming. If you are not willing to lose your money/items do not participate in gambling.

Dont participate in them if the rules are unclear.
Yet later on in the rules it states this:
It is not considered a scam unless money or items are lost or received. Except in the case of agreed upon coinflips or dice rolls.
This would mean that coinflips and dice rolls can be considered scams and that they would not fall under the gambling games category (for some reason).
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[SSRP] Scamming Rule Change Suggestion 7 years 9 months ago #733195

The person is bound to lose their money at some point. better sooner than later :zarp: :zarp: :zarp: :zarp:
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[SSRP] Scamming Rule Change Suggestion 7 years 9 months ago #733275

It turns out this rule change is not needed, locked.
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