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TOPIC: [DR] Leeching Rule

[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571712

Studio Banter wrote:

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I was the one who suggested it to be removed a long time ago. Link Honestly, this will create more problems within the process. What if a new person joins the servers and struggles? Are we going to punish that user?

You yourself are making things complicated.

Like I said, the leeching rule was never troublesome when I was admin and the staff team handled it like any other rule.
If a new person joins the server, teach him like a staff member should. "Struggling" is where you're over-complicating things.

I'll assure you I'm not making things complicated. Throughout the whole time I was within Deathrun before the rule was removed, it was never enforced what so ever. If this rule was to come back would need to be under a different definition as, I don't see the point of re-adding it.

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571714

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I was the one who suggested it to be removed a long time ago. Link Honestly, this will create more problems within the process. What if a new person joins the servers and struggles? Are we going to punish that user?

Thats a dumb ass argument. The whole point of the rules list is to inform new users of what they can and can not do. Just because you guys are to lazzy to bother explaining the rule to someone doesn't mean it shouln't be added. Your main job is to explain the rules to users. So how about you list some actual problems that brining back a rule for this would add. Then I want you to think about that and remeber your a staff memeber. That means if there is some shit that is confusing you about the rule you bring it up to be clarified dont be lazy and just remove it.

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But I fully agree with u here as long as us as I staff team 1)explain the rule 2)enforce the rule there is no issue in 're adding it and it will allow for smoother rounds to take place

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571717

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I was the one who suggested it to be removed a long time ago. Link Honestly, this will create more problems within the process. What if a new person joins the servers and struggles? Are we going to punish that user?

Thats a dumb ass argument. The whole point of the rules list is to inform new users of what they can and can not do. Just because you guys are to lazzy to bother explaining the rule to someone doesn't mean it shouln't be added. Your main job is to explain the rules to users. So how about you list some actual problems that brining back a rule for this would add. Then I want you to think about that and remeber your a staff memeber. That means if there is some shit that is confusing you about the rule you bring it up to be clarified dont be lazy and just remove it.

I'm going off from what I saw back when I was a user/mod. If the rule wants to be added I have no issue along as it's under a different meaning. But my issue is, we have no current issues with the rule removed. Not trying to create an argument, simply asking questions. The sole purpose of what I said is due to PAST experience from where I never saw the rule enforced, which was the whole reason for me to suggest it to be removed.

That means if there is some shit that is confusing you about the rule you bring it up to be clarified dont be lazy and just remove it.

That was back then ...

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571720

@Pitt, Current issue: [Deathrun] Make this an exploit Can anyone post the former rule?	Studio Banter Offline Marvelous Boarder ❤️ Posts: 14015 Thanks received: 5850 Karma: -61
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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571724

Studio Banter wrote: @Pitt, Current issue: [Deathrun] Make this an exploit Can anyone post the former rule? First time hearing of this honestly. I think I worded my shit incorrectly. I've seen more leeching ever since betting was a thing as it gets to the point where they will let everyone do the work for points. I can admit that's where the leech rule would come in handy.	Pitt Offline User is blocked Posts: 665 Thanks received: 270 Karma: 26
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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571728

People bet then get scared that they'll lose their points so they leech, pretty easy to catch out the people who are doing so.	Bazaraxe Offline Legendary Member Ay-Yi-Yi-Yi- Posts: 2686 Thanks received: 906 Karma: 19
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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571748

//Edit:

-No delaying: Intentionally holding up the round as the last player or group is not allowed ~~an example would be to be the last runner alive and not make an attempt to bait traps, and just wait the round out.~~

[Editing would preclude any confusion which you're afraid of and won't conflict with the leeching rule.]

//Add:

-Leeching: Not attempting to bait traps (...use sophisticated English here.)

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571751

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571813

I do not see the point in this rule being re-added, leeching does not effect the game as much as people assume, for 1 there are about atleast 10 people who bhop ahead of everyone and the people who do not know how to bhop would essentially be called out for leeching so it would look bad on newer players who could essentially be punished, in my eyes it is a useless rule and it would have to effect on the server.

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Thats a dumb ass argument. The whole point of the rules list is to inform new users of what they can and can not do. Just because you guys are to lazzy to bother explaining the rule to someone doesn't mean it shouln't be added. Your main job is to explain the rules to users. So how about you list some actual problems that brining back a rule for this would add. Then I want you to think about that and remeber your a staff memeber. That means if there is some shit that is confusing you about the rule you bring it up to be clarified dont be lazy and just remove it.

The Motd menu with the rules pops up on the players screen automatically when they connect so there should be no excuse for the users not to follow the rules as they're greeted with it when connected and if they have any questions or anything they need to complain about, they should notify us about said issue.

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571861

I honestly don't care. if thats how you play, You do you as long as you don't delay when you're the last one left	Megumin Offline Expert Boarder ★ Dont Mind Me ★ Posts: 820 Thanks received: 108 Karma: -35
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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #571885

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #572099

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I do not see the point in this rule being re-added, leeching does not effect the game as much as people assume, for 1 there are about atleast 10 people who bhop ahead of everyone and the people who do not know how to bhop would essentially be called out for leeching so it would look bad on newer players who could essentially be punished, in my eyes it is a useless rule and it would have to effect on the server.

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Thats a dumb ass argument. The whole point of the rules list is to inform new users of what they can and can not do. Just because you guys are to lazzy to bother explaining the rule to someone doesn't mean it shouln't be added. Your main job is to explain the rules to users. So how about you list some actual problems that brining back a rule for this would add. Then I want you to think about that and remeber your a staff memeber. That means if there is some shit that is confusing you about the rule you bring it up to be clarified dont be lazy and just remove it.

The Motd menu with the rules pops up on the players screen automatically when they connect so there should be no excuse for the users not to follow the rules as they're greeted with it when connected and if they have any questions or anything they need to complain about, they should notify us about said issue.

blue - Yes there is plenty of bhoppers on the server, so? It's not like bhoppers couldn't leech also, taken into account small maps or otherwise traps. It won't look bad on newer players and it never has. Last but not least, don't punish them then if they're not leeching.

Like I said before, the leeching rule has never caused issues in the past. All you're giving me is hypothetical nonsense that it will look "bad" on newer players".

purple - I think you need to re-read EMP's post.

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #572104

I'd like to see this however when the rule was there nobody was getting warned for it and 9/10 staff members didn't care about it.	rroobbiinn10xx Offline Diamond Boarder Zwarte piet is not racist Posts: 4074 Thanks received: 1739 Karma: 42
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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #572119

MickyJS wrote:

I do not see the point in this rule being re-added, leeching does not effect the game as much as people assume, for 1 there are about atleast 10 people who bhop ahead of everyone and the people who do not know how to bhop would essentially be called out for leeching so it would look bad on newer players who could essentially be punished, in my eyes it is a useless rule and it would have to effect on the server.

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Thats a dumb ass argument. The whole point of the rules list is to inform new users of what they can and can not do. Just because you guys are to lazzy to bother explaining the rule to someone doesn't mean it shouln't be added. Your main job is to explain the rules to users. So how about you list some actual problems that brining back a rule for this would add. Then I want you to think about that and remeber your a staff memeber. That means if there is some shit that is confusing you about the rule you bring it up to be clarified dont be lazy and just remove it.

The Motd menu with the rules pops up on the players screen automatically when they connect so there should be no excuse for the users not to follow the rules as they're greeted with it when connected and if they have any questions or anything they need to complain about, they should notify us about said issue.

blue - Yes there is plenty of bhoppers on the server, so? It's not like bhoppers couldn't leech also, taken into account small maps or otherwise traps. It won't look bad on newer players and it never has. Last but not least, don't punish them then if they're not leeching.

Like I said before, the leeching rule has never caused issues in the past. All you're giving me is hypothetical nonsense that it will look "bad" on newer players".

purple - I think you need to re-read EMP's post.

I don't think you understand what I am saying, people mostly win from bhopping and I am on the server currently and I cannot see anyone leeching. If 2 players are left alive and they do not want to bait the trap that can fall into the delay of round rule, as they're wasting the round by just standing their waiting for another person.
There is really no use for this rule because you cannot fix leeching 100% and it will be hard for staff members to spectate a server with 30+ people to determine who is leeching and who isn't.

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #572137

rroobbiinn10xx wrote: I'd like to see this however when the rule was there nobody was getting warned for it and 9/10 staff members didn't care about it. No one was warned as we gave verbal and then they started moving etc if not we did eventually proceed to slay but no necessarily warn but I feel it's got out offhand since the betting system and more and more people are doing it	A Good Pianist Offline Spectacular Boarder A Wob A Bob Bob Posts: 15000 Thanks received: 3911 Karma: 22
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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #572297

~~I don't think you understand what I am saying, people mostly win from bhopping and I am on the server currently and I cannot see anyone leeching.~~ If 2 players are left alive and they do not want to bait the trap that can fall into the delay of round rule, as they're wasting the round by just standing their waiting for another person.
There is really no use for this rule because you cannot fix leeching 100% and it will be hard for staff members to spectate a server with 30+ people to determine who is leeching and who isn't.

orange - explained in an earlier post.

blue - Not everything needs a slay or warn. The rule is just there to remind people that they're playing a game and they should try their own ability to win. As mentioned by others, the betting system allows for more leeching as people are too pussies to lose what they bet.

You're making this hard for every staff member by thinking adding the leeching rule will require them to spectate the server with 30+ people when in reality they should play the game themselves and act their rank when someone is doing something against the rules.

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #572301

You shouldn't not add a rule because staff can't handle it. Rules are there to fix any problem that a user might encounter and to make sure everyone has the most fun experience. Rules are not there to make a staff's job easier. If there is indeed a problem and if this rule can fix that problem then there is literally no reason to not add this rule.	Raeker Offline Former Community Manager It hurts the best of us Posts: 9175 Thanks received: 6576 Karma: 213
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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #572582

MickyJS wrote:

I do not see the point in this rule being re-added, leeching does not effect the game as much as people assume, for 1 there are about atleast 10 people who bhop ahead of everyone and the people who do not know how to bhop would essentially be called out for leeching so it would look bad on newer players who could essentially be punished, in my eyes it is a useless rule and it would have to effect on the server.

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Thats a dumb ass argument. The whole point of the rules list is to inform new users of what they can and can not do. Just because you guys are to lazzy to bother explaining the rule to someone doesn't mean it shouln't be added. Your main job is to explain the rules to users. So how about you list some actual problems that brining back a rule for this would add. Then I want you to think about that and remeber your a staff memeber. That means if there is some shit that is confusing you about the rule you bring it up to be clarified dont be lazy and just remove it.

The Motd menu with the rules pops up on the players screen automatically when they connect so there should be no excuse for the users not to follow the rules as they're greeted with it when connected and if they have any questions or anything they need to complain about, they should notify us about said issue.

It does affect the game when people are just playing so they can win points and exp whilst leeching off other people's skill and effort. Punishing players who aren't trying to bait traps is ridiculous, but when it's obvious and you can see that they are doing it to an excessive amount then there's your answer. When someone is sitting on the very first trap waiting for the round to end so they can receive their 5000 points and a handful of experience points, it's stupid and just plain wrong.
Also what's the point of having staff if they don't want to enforce the rules of the server? Staff should be committed and attend to all rules of the server and agree to do a good job of enforcing them.

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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 3 months ago #572589

I was waiting for someone to suggest this!	JoeSweeney Offline Senior Boarder Resigned Deathrun Admin Posts: 430 Thanks received: 67 Karma: -6
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[DR] Leeching Rule 8 years 2 months ago #573558

The rule shouldn't have been removed in the first place.	KingofSaiyans Offline Senior Boarder I might be a fan of Maisie Williams. Posts: 661 Thanks received: 160 Karma: 1
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