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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304081

Jugger wrote:
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How rules change when the higher ups want to benefit from them.


listen to me big bases printers alts dont cause lag all the head admins have confirmed it etc
ahhaahhha
once paras printers got colided he needed to remove the whole base or restart the server

they got collided in his safe thats it not the base dupe the safe
it was the amount of printers from the alts
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304113

First of all its the engine.
Currently the source engine is very un optimized and thats what causes this lag.
We just have to hope that the upcoming gmod or "big" update will fix this.
I dont know why alts got legalized in the first place as this makes the game complete P2W, and before you say shit like "you cant raid us" you should consider the shit ton of lag that makes it impossible to hit anyone AND combine that with the shitty hit detection gmod has and you got 1 hell of a combination.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304151

Remember when 10 mil was alot?


Yeah, the good days when RP was fun.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304152

Mobile Task Force Gunner wrote:
First of all its the engine.
Currently the source engine is very un optimized and thats what causes this lag.
We just have to hope that the upcoming gmod or "big" update will fix this.
I dont know why alts got legalized in the first place as this makes the game complete P2W, and before you say shit like "you cant raid us" you should consider the shit ton of lag that makes it impossible to hit anyone AND combine that with the shitty hit detection gmod has and you got 1 hell of a combination.
100 % right
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304173

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Server Name: SV1/2

Suggestion Title: Remove trees

How would it benefit the server: Less lag and people complaining

Potential Issues/Exploits: n/a , just blacklist them

Additional notes:

Today there came a user to server 1 and asked me to let some admins to go to server 2 because apparently people with alts were spawning in 10 part bases and causing lag. I joined the server and apparently lead team members were spawning bases in and it caused mass lag and fps drop. Ive got already 6 people complaining about it. So my suggestion was to remove the big bases or alts. (I asked him to remove it and said : "its allowed, not against the rules"

Hey bud, edit your title to remove trees!
Why, I ask to get rid of big bases? :o
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Its really not a good idea as people with ALTs have paid for the game and VIP on the alts. They would not be happy at all if ALTS were disallowed
It'd help to attract new players who'll stay :)
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I'm not going to lie, I'd play SSRP if there were no abnormally large bases, playing in small bases which take up one building used to be fun. It's not fun when they take up an entire street and they just prove to be a huge eyesore on the map.
Exactly this! Up until last summer it was very fun to play SSRP, you had a nice RP experience, people would actually RP, the bases were raidable, even without explosives, you had fun, you were killing others and happy if you found 1 printer with 50k in it!
Nowadays if you find 1m it's meh, not that much, because people with alts print that every minute. You can't keep-up with people who pay-to-play. And thus ruin the fun for others :)
Although, the last week or so I've barely seen any big bases, that has probably to do with the event, but hey, it's at least a bit better! Progression guys!itzsonzy wrote:
Must be all the huge bases causing lag, but dont worry, Cherry's 70 Prop RP houses, full of the biggest tree's imaginable are completely fine!
I quote Paramontana"Big props are not the cause of the lag"

Hence, he has a 5 part base with 5*70 props, thats 350 props, why'd my 70 props make the server lag?
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well if they get rid of alts that means they scammed me cause i paid a shit ton of money for alts etc so they would not do that

also so what if you got big bases if your a good raider you can raid it since if they remove alts you can stil lgive it to friends and they can paste it down it will be no different
So you only think about your self?
Slefish is what it's called, Jugger, selfish.
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also i dont use my alts to an advantage only to paste down dupes my alts stay afk at spawn so if we get raided ill just wait nlr etc


also what about the handcannons etc which can destory bases in 1 shot so think about that
You gotta have 10 alts first to print money for a hand cannon, which become even more rare nowadays.
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Alts have killed the economy.

your trolling has killed the staff team
I'd rather see a troll killing the staff team then a person killing the server ;-)
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Only problem with this is the current explosives they would destroy every small base thats the only rerason these big bases are around maybe if the explosives wernt so good and powerful then people wouldnt have to result in these big types of bases
Well, yes, but they can be nerfed, although bases can still be raidable with the prop protection.
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Alts have killed the economy.
your right
the problem is the alt gives u and advantage with printing in a hour more then a normal person or putting them as cops and raiding bank or lunching nuke
People pay for this privilege and if they were removed it would cause total disruption among the servers, literally over 500+ dollars gone to waste, paras alts, dooms, juggers, luan, fennester, me, gun mac blasting ton shit tons of people would be upset and most likely have one or more reasons to leave the community or get upset and have rants etc.
You lived without them before, so why not anymore? You got addicted to them or what?
You NEED them? Else you can't play like other people play? Like it's supposed to?


It'd just attract new people to have a server without lag and some actual RP in it. Maybe then ZARP can be the best SSRP server again ;-) They used to be that for a long time, but it has gone worse.
I rarely use my alt unless I'm basing or printing over night. People that are willing to go the extra mile and pay double, triple, quadruple the regular amount for a higher benefit deserve a better advantage over the others who don't. Majority of the people here buy alts and VIP for personal benefit not supporting ZARP. VIP purchases are lowering by days as the Server popularity is etc. If we remove alts thst can affect keepingtbr community going as we cannot rely on just the owners at this point to pay for everything we have a lot of servers, high slot servers, good host, holiday and tradition updates Etc. As stated if we remove alts we are only removing the lag for everyone else and for the decent amount of people who have purchased them that's them losing their money, guaranteed benefit after purchase, scamming them, afrivating them further to either leave or some other resort to get show how they feel about it. Removing alts would cause a high negative effect on the community.
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you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304174

Sure the engine could be better but the cause is too many alts and its an easy fast fix

And gmod i dont see what you mean how alts are keeping the server going. If it wasnt for the lag cause by this issue. Zarp would then have a ton of more players buying vip.

I mean its about only 3-4 people causing the issue atm. How do only their money count towards the server?

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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304177

Aspect wrote:
Sure the engine could be better but the cause is too many alts and its an easy fast fix
Read what I just said.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304178

Now you read what i said
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304179

Gmod Troller wrote:
Snicker wrote:
spodermon wrote:
mycherrycrush wrote:
Server Name: SV1/2

Suggestion Title: Remove trees

How would it benefit the server: Less lag and people complaining

Potential Issues/Exploits: n/a , just blacklist them

Additional notes:

Today there came a user to server 1 and asked me to let some admins to go to server 2 because apparently people with alts were spawning in 10 part bases and causing lag. I joined the server and apparently lead team members were spawning bases in and it caused mass lag and fps drop. Ive got already 6 people complaining about it. So my suggestion was to remove the big bases or alts. (I asked him to remove it and said : "its allowed, not against the rules"

Hey bud, edit your title to remove trees!
Why, I ask to get rid of big bases? :o
Max. wrote:
Its really not a good idea as people with ALTs have paid for the game and VIP on the alts. They would not be happy at all if ALTS were disallowed
It'd help to attract new players who'll stay :)
Stratiic wrote:
I'm not going to lie, I'd play SSRP if there were no abnormally large bases, playing in small bases which take up one building used to be fun. It's not fun when they take up an entire street and they just prove to be a huge eyesore on the map.
Exactly this! Up until last summer it was very fun to play SSRP, you had a nice RP experience, people would actually RP, the bases were raidable, even without explosives, you had fun, you were killing others and happy if you found 1 printer with 50k in it!
Nowadays if you find 1m it's meh, not that much, because people with alts print that every minute. You can't keep-up with people who pay-to-play. And thus ruin the fun for others :)
Although, the last week or so I've barely seen any big bases, that has probably to do with the event, but hey, it's at least a bit better! Progression guys!itzsonzy wrote:
Must be all the huge bases causing lag, but dont worry, Cherry's 70 Prop RP houses, full of the biggest tree's imaginable are completely fine!
I quote Paramontana"Big props are not the cause of the lag"

Hence, he has a 5 part base with 5*70 props, thats 350 props, why'd my 70 props make the server lag?
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well if they get rid of alts that means they scammed me cause i paid a shit ton of money for alts etc so they would not do that

also so what if you got big bases if your a good raider you can raid it since if they remove alts you can stil lgive it to friends and they can paste it down it will be no different
So you only think about your self?
Slefish is what it's called, Jugger, selfish.
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also i dont use my alts to an advantage only to paste down dupes my alts stay afk at spawn so if we get raided ill just wait nlr etc


also what about the handcannons etc which can destory bases in 1 shot so think about that
You gotta have 10 alts first to print money for a hand cannon, which become even more rare nowadays.
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Xeoribet wrote:
Alts have killed the economy.

your trolling has killed the staff team
I'd rather see a troll killing the staff team then a person killing the server ;-)
Macca Lad wrote:
Only problem with this is the current explosives they would destroy every small base thats the only rerason these big bases are around maybe if the explosives wernt so good and powerful then people wouldnt have to result in these big types of bases
Well, yes, but they can be nerfed, although bases can still be raidable with the prop protection.
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Xeoribet wrote:
Alts have killed the economy.
your right
the problem is the alt gives u and advantage with printing in a hour more then a normal person or putting them as cops and raiding bank or lunching nuke
People pay for this privilege and if they were removed it would cause total disruption among the servers, literally over 500+ dollars gone to waste, paras alts, dooms, juggers, luan, fennester, me, gun mac blasting ton shit tons of people would be upset and most likely have one or more reasons to leave the community or get upset and have rants etc.
You lived without them before, so why not anymore? You got addicted to them or what?
You NEED them? Else you can't play like other people play? Like it's supposed to?


It'd just attract new people to have a server without lag and some actual RP in it. Maybe then ZARP can be the best SSRP server again ;-) They used to be that for a long time, but it has gone worse.
I rarely use my alt unless I'm basing or printing over night. People that are willing to go the extra mile and pay double, triple, quadruple the regular amount for a higher benefit deserve a better advantage over the others who don't.

Le advocating pay2win practices on the server.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304182

@Exro u wot m8
@Aspect majority of the people who stopped playing was because of Bloc42 change and boredom. Lag is a factor yes but that would only bring back a certain portion of people. As I stated the owners aren't the only things keeping the servers going as all the purchases make this possible aka the community buying VIP who help the server to keep running get a benefit, people wouldnt donate extra money for the fuck of it and we know well that is true. They are doing it for benefit, sure it causes lag but removing means less purchases and the chances of Zarp to keep running gets lower, people will leave and alts won't be on so the population will drop around 10-30 (if majority or all people with alts leave) money gone to waste and Zarps reputation will change. There are more negatives than positives here, about 5 - 10 hours of the day 50+ people are on (either one or two) majority of the time alts are on all day on server 2 (about 5-10 alts) if we remove alts population drops which means people won't want to join due to less people being online, lag will slightly decrease, loss of people playing the community, money gone to waste and a lot more. It's not worth it.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304187

ZARPs reputation will change from an idle server to a server where people do shit.

If the reason we allow alts is to boost the player count artificially, then the server should be flagged as an idle server imo.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304191

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ZARPs reputation will change from an idle server to a server where people do shit.

If the reason we allow alts is to boost the player count artificially, then the server should be flagged as an idle server imo.
Not exactly why alts are here people pay for them removing them can cause drama etc as stated in my previous 3 posts.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304192

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ZARPs reputation will change from an idle server to a server where people do shit.

If the reason we allow alts is to boost the player count artificially, then the server should be flagged as an idle server imo.
Not exactly why alts are here people pay for them removing them can cause drama etc as stated in my previous 3 posts.

Not at all. Drama is caused by allowing these alts every day.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304194

i got 1 alt which is enough
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Xeoribet wrote:
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ZARPs reputation will change from an idle server to a server where people do shit.

If the reason we allow alts is to boost the player count artificially, then the server should be flagged as an idle server imo.
Not exactly why alts are here people pay for them removing them can cause drama etc as stated in my previous 3 posts.

Not at all. Drama is caused by allowing these alts every day.
Vice versa after removing them. Either way drama will stay, no point in removing over 500+ dollars worth of accounts total for a slightly better Rp experience. It's not like the experience hasnt been unfair before *cough hand cannons* *cough thundergun* *cough booster pack's* it's always been pay to win-ish on the servers. The more you pay the better benefit you get is how it is and will most likely be. In this case removing alts is basically making people pay Zarp for no reason which means Jugger for say or doom or part would have paid 140 dollars for no reason, add that up with the amount of people with alts. That's pretty damn high amount of cash lost.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304197

Gmod Troller wrote:
Xeoribet wrote:
Gmod Troller wrote:
Xeoribet wrote:
ZARPs reputation will change from an idle server to a server where people do shit.

If the reason we allow alts is to boost the player count artificially, then the server should be flagged as an idle server imo.
Not exactly why alts are here people pay for them removing them can cause drama etc as stated in my previous 3 posts.

Not at all. Drama is caused by allowing these alts every day.
Vice versa after removing them. Either way drama will stay, no point in removing over 500+ dollars worth of accounts total for a slightly better Rp experience. It's not like the experience hasnt been unfair before *cough hand cannons* *cough thundergun* *cough booster pack's* it's always been pay to win-ish on the servers. The more you pay the better benefit you get is how it is and will most likely be. In this case removing alts is basically making people pay Zarp for no reason which means Jugger for say or doom or part would have paid 140 dollars for no reason, add that up with the amount of people with alts. That's pretty damn high amount of cash lost.

Most VIPs for alts are bought with ingame cash.

What's the point in a printer limit if we let people bypass it?
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304198

How about a ALT limiter rather than get rid of them all. 2 ALTS at the max or something like that
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304201

That may be true but I have no real awnser to that. Either way money was spent no matter the amount there is no point to remove it for the reasons instated previously and many more. People wasting money for a slightly better experience (less lag)
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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That may be true but I have no real awnser to that. Either way money was spent no matter the amount there is no point to remove it for the reasons instated previously and many more. People wasting money for a slightly better experience (less lag)

It's a shame but less lag would really help server 2 at times.
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Remove big bases 9 years 4 months ago #304207

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How about a ALT limiter rather than get rid of them all. 2 ALTS at the max or something like that
Or a stop on buying g alts but keeping the amount you have now. Peoples money won't be wasted but will still cause drama for people who think it's unfair, get it straight they paid Real money for items in a virtual world and because you decided not to use your money means the people who did deserve to get their money wastes because they bought something and you didn't. If you had paid Money for alts none of you would be here arguing for the removing of alts.
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you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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