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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1281219

Kemi wrote:
I feel that in light of recent events something like this might certainly need a bump!
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1281362

Tl;dr? I’ll read it at some point I just want a summary of what was suggested
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1281381

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Great suggestions as always, you legend. I appreciate the support with my situation, and I hope some of your ideal policies get implemented! You always go above and beyond in your suggestions, and that is simply amazing. :plussp:
wait, you took the time to read it all?
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1281383

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Great suggestions as always, you legend. I appreciate the support with my situation, and I hope some of your ideal policies get implemented! You always go above and beyond in your suggestions, and that is simply amazing. :plussp:
wait, you took the time to read it all?
I while back I did yeah :D
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1281403

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Tl;dr? I’ll read it at some point I just want a summary of what was suggested
Tl;dr

Add new Policy:
Staff Self-Representation During Demotion
When a staff member is to be brought up for demotion by a Lead team member they are first to be informed by the lead team member in question – this is provided they are capable of contacting the staff member, and the staff member is willing to communicate.

The staff member is to be granted an invitation to join the lead team during the discussion of the demote during the Lead Team Meeting, which they may choose to either accept or decline. In the event, a staff member accepts the invitation they are able to defend themselves. After which they are removed from the meeting and the Lead Team may then vote anonymously on their final verdict.

In case the staff member declines the request the demotion may be handled as normal.

Everything else around the suggestion is a description that indicates why we feel it's necessary and why we've come to the solution that we have.
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1281404

Kemi wrote:
I feel that in light of recent events something like this might certainly need a bump!
can we please get an explanation as to why a staff member edited this user's message.
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1282831

Solid 700 views in!~

Now that ChuteUK is back we might see some action taken.
Here's to bumping it to bring it back into the spotlight fellas.
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1282861

Outstanding suggestion and I would love to see some more transparency between staff and users in general so I welcome this suggestion.

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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1284625

Its been nearly a week but yet I feel this remains an important issue that has to be addressed! Bump!
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1284629

Kemi wrote:
Its been nearly a week but yet I feel this remains an important issue that has to be addressed! Bump!

i think ur trying too hard for a server that doesn't even want ur help
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1284693

MichaeI wrote:
Kemi wrote:
Its been nearly a week but yet I feel this remains an important issue that has to be addressed! Bump!

i think ur trying too hard for a server that doesn't even want ur help
I disagree, the community at least from the looks of things does want his help, however, the majority of the community also doesn't have any power over getting this reviewed.
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 6 months ago #1284764

Nick0GR wrote:
MichaeI wrote:
Kemi wrote:
Its been nearly a week but yet I feel this remains an important issue that has to be addressed! Bump!

i think ur trying too hard for a server that doesn't even want ur help
I disagree, the community at least from the looks of things does want his help, however, the majority of the community also doesn't have any power over getting this reviewed.

i mean the cm team bro
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 5 months ago #1285906

Whether or not they want my help does not matter! I'll keep trying anyway. Days are flying by... t'was a bumpy week.

P.S. that's 1900 yay
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 5 months ago #1285927

:plussp:
Sounds like a good idea to allow staff the opportunity to defend themself, when faced with a imminent demotion.
I know i have not been around to see anyone get demoted, yet. But it's concerning to read that staff could get demoted for stuff the staff member has for whatever reason not had the time to respond to or to explain the situation from their point of view. Which may or may not change the outcome of the final decision.
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 5 months ago #1286471

Whilst at first I never really saw a problem with this system, upon gaining personal experience with its flaws, and later seeing others get screwed by the same thing I knew something had to be done. There's often a lot of things that people forget/don't know which may drastically change the outcome of situations, and although appeals exist they are not taken nearly as seriously as I feel they should be.

I feel that sometimes we might need a reminder that staff too are human beings, and allowing them to express their concerns, thoughts and permit them to explain their actions themselves might bring to light previously unknown facts and or show the way a staff member truly feels about the choices they made. There's an issue here and in the face of ever-decreasing staff numbers and in the hope of establishing a level of fairness towards staff within the community when it comes to their demotions I feel that a change has to be made.

As far as I could see I'm not the only person who thinks this way, and I hope that someone in the community team thinks a similar way and will help us in making a swift transition to a fairer punishment system. Oh, and bump I suppose.
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 5 months ago #1287304

Not the biggest fan of bumping after a bump with no comment, but most comments have been given already it seems. This one, however, is the most important one I feel so bump it I shall!
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 5 months ago #1287340

Kemi wrote:
Not the biggest fan of bumping after a bump with no comment, but most comments have been given already it seems. This one, however, is the most important one I feel so bump it I shall!
I'll bump it for you next time, no worries!
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 5 months ago #1287353

I respect all that you're trying to do, but there have been several meetings where this could have been discussed (it's not every day they receive requests of this kind, so it would make sense they got attention when they DO happen). If you haven't heard back now, I assume they don't plan on acting on it in any way. If they are, they should really give an update of any kind. Staff have undoubtably seen this thread numerous times now, the least they can do is acknowledge if they do or do not care for it.
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 5 months ago #1288172

As promised, bump
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[All Servers] Change Demotion Policies 3 years 5 months ago #1288877

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As promised, bump
You did as you promised! And I'll give you a thank you for it! Now it is my turn again! BUMP!
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