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[Community] Sinz report abuse 4 days 22 hours ago #1428514

sinzz wrote:
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the only thing u need to do it's to wast ur time for nothing, and cry on discord ? :whistle:
btw why you lying ? the last message was the 5/04/2023?
its in a groupchat i have the whole convo recorded except the ones u deleted after i posted this

that yapping will lead you to one thing make you stupid just saying, cuz acting like a children did nothing won't change my opinion on u harasser ( on discord )

Deciphering the third screenshot in the report it seems you are telling someone the only way you wouldn't rape them again is if they killed themselves. Now I'm no expert on what classifies as harassment but I would bet a tenner that saying that would fall under most peoples definition of harassment.

don't take the little screenshoot as a whole story of the puzzle just saying

that hmmm website on top "image" showing a truly harassing stuff that spread out and kronen approved it jusst saying here + many more
How am i harassing you when u started the convo?

ban evading and then saying u wasn't playing zarp ? that a big lie u doing here tho and surely not me started the first after what happend
I showed u proof i was playing roblox when u pinged me but ur dumb french brain cant comprehend you being wrong
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 4 days 22 hours ago #1428515

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Did he want to these things to you on a ZARP service? No? Denied.

btw clarky said it's deneid so why u keep persisting tho
My post was a joke
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 4 days 22 hours ago #1428516

Kronen wrote:
sinzz wrote:
Kronen wrote:
sinzz wrote:
Hungry Santa wrote:
sinzz wrote:
Kronen wrote:
sinzz wrote:
the only thing u need to do it's to wast ur time for nothing, and cry on discord ? :whistle:
btw why you lying ? the last message was the 5/04/2023?
its in a groupchat i have the whole convo recorded except the ones u deleted after i posted this

that yapping will lead you to one thing make you stupid just saying, cuz acting like a children did nothing won't change my opinion on u harasser ( on discord )

Deciphering the third screenshot in the report it seems you are telling someone the only way you wouldn't rape them again is if they killed themselves. Now I'm no expert on what classifies as harassment but I would bet a tenner that saying that would fall under most peoples definition of harassment.

don't take the little screenshoot as a whole story of the puzzle just saying

that hmmm website on top "image" showing a truly harassing stuff that spread out and kronen approved it jusst saying here + many more
How am i harassing you when u started the convo?

ban evading and then saying u wasn't playing zarp ? that a big lie u doing here tho and surely not me started the first after what happend
I showed u proof i was playing roblox when u pinged me but ur dumb french brain cant comprehend you being wrong
won't change the fact that "discord" is not related to zarp you just making urself wasting ur time tho
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 4 days 22 hours ago #1428517

Clarky wrote:
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Clarky wrote:
Did he want to these things to you on a ZARP service? No? Denied.

btw clarky said it's deneid so why u keep persisting tho
My post was a joke
u must have been serious
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 4 days 22 hours ago #1428518

Clarky wrote:
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Clarky wrote:
Did he want to these things to you on a ZARP service? No? Denied.

btw clarky said it's deneid so why u keep persisting tho
My post was a joke
In general stuff related to discord it's only "zarp discord" not custom discord was pretty a fact here but all good
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 4 days 22 hours ago #1428520

This will be discussed in this weeks Community Team Meeting.
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 4 days 22 hours ago #1428521

We'll handle this report in the next Community Team Meeting on Sunday. Can you give us some details as to where these messages originated (zarp discord / dms / group chat / other servers) as well as additional info about what was written prior to and after these messages were sent? Can you also tell us if there were any instances of sinz sending you weird message in-game or on another ZARP service? Its kind of hard for us to reliably verify and get the full context of message that aren't sent through our servers, which is why we usually don't issue punishments based soley on them, so the more context you can give us the better. Regardless, I'd advise you to block people that send you messages like this immediately.

Please send any additional information directly to a cm team member on discord.
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 16 hours 17 minutes ago #1428603

We’ve handled this report in tonight’s Community Team Meeting. We reviewed the report, the screenshots, and all relevant replies. One of us also checked the original group chat, and we spoke with both Sinz and Kronen beforehand to gather details.

As a Community Team, our top priority is user safety—especially for minors. We have a strict zero-tolerance policy for anyone trying to exploit minors on our services, and we carefully investigate every such report. This has led to many community bans over the years.

However, we also need solid evidence before handing out punishments. Reports and bans here are discussed publicly, so issuing a serious ban basically confirms we found enough proof to exclude someone from the community. Even if we remove the ban later, the user could still be stuck with a reputation as “the guy who got cm banned for being a pedo.” That can have serious real-world consequences, especially when friends or co-workers are involved in the community.

In this case, the interactions happened in a Discord group chat with six other users. The main evidence was a set of screenshots and claims that Sinz sent “inappropriate and pedophilic” messages directed at Kronen and talked about “wanting to rape” him.

Shortly after the report was posted, Kronen said Sinz deleted the worst messages. Sinz, meanwhile, denies deleting anything and says some screenshots were edited, fake, or taken out of context. When we joined the chat, certain messages were missing, but we couldn’t confirm if they were deleted or never there. Because of these conflicting explanations, we decided to only rely on the messages still present. These two were not found in the chat:

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Below are the remaining screenshots and other questionable messages we found:

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In conclusion, based on the evidence still available in the group chat, we haven’t found enough grounds to label Sinz’s remarks as pedophilic or to justify a ban for the serious accusations stated. While the insults and references are definitely inappropriate—they are not inappropriate to an extend that would warrant a punishment.
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 16 hours 6 minutes ago #1428605

I'm glad this was properly looked into and not brushed off as its the most serious of allegations and it was a long meeting as you can't make a decision like this unless the whole CM team is in agreement.
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 16 hours 3 minutes ago #1428606

I'll give my personal reasoning for voting No on this report. Pedo situation reports are always dodgy to undertake as you need to have all the facts, and this situation is very iffy on whether the screenshots are legitimate as we do not have any logs of the messages existing as it was in a private Discord group chat and not a server with an audit log. If we were to have logs of all these screenshots being real, then I personally would instantly vote yes, as they are super disgusting remarks, and I would not want anyone in this community who would even have these thoughts in their brain; however, since I can't prove they are real, I have to stay on the safe side when voting, as labelling someone as a pedophile when I'm not 100% certain is just not something I'm comfortable with.
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 16 hours 3 minutes ago #1428607

Should anyone need to make reports for events that happen outside the ZARP servers, where we do not have logs to validate all claims being made, you should make sure to remove the person being reported from group chats or servers BEFORE making a public report. In cases like this, its very easy for the person being reported to go ahead and delete messages before it has been seen by the Community Team to discuss, which makes it very difficult to decide an outcome. We have to be very cautious around reports like these and not label someone as a Pedophile where the evidence has been deleted, as it would not be the first instance where someone has been banned for such things, and we later learn that it was false and had to revert it.
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 16 hours 3 minutes ago #1428608

Although the messages may have been in character, it's hard to go off of just a betterdiscord screenshot. If someone is being a pedo, fuckin record them so the person in question can't claim they're fake at the very least. Kick them from the group chat so they can't delete their messages. Then get a CM team member in there so they can see firsthand that you're being truthful.
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[Community] Sinz report abuse 15 hours 54 minutes ago #1428611

As much as I dislike sinz, looking into this report and things that were said, it should've been reported a lot sooner than now because as even Kronen mentioned a lot of the messages have been deleted and using better discord can only recover so much information before its all gone. As CEO mentioned it really should've been reported sooner and recorded evidence of the messages live so we'd have concrete evidence to be able to ban and remove someone from the community for being a podophile like similar situations in the past.
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