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TOPIC: [CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan

[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21167

CASE CLOSED

Name - What is the accused person's name?
Jordan

STEAM-ID - What is the accused person's STEAM-ID?
STEAM_0:1:55513623

Reason - What rules did the person break?
-Tier 2-
Greater power abuse:
invalid Prop un-freezing/invalid physgunning

Story - What happened?
Unfroze my 2nd entrance's propblock to get in my base with no effort compared to the main entrance which was supervised.

Proof - Any proof on a video/screenshot that clearly show what happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xFv1sdW ... tu.be&hd=1
http://youtu.be/Q8XkSujGP4E (with sound)
as you can see in the video i froze the prop, then played for a couple of hours, when suddenly there's a Jordan in my house who has entered without going trough the proper entrance. As you can see at the end he has unfrozen the barricade and is escaping.


Server - What server was this on?
Zarp 1. The only ZARP

Time and date (CET)
29-07-2013 about 14:30.

Other comment - Anything else you want to add?
on top of the warning request, i would also like to get the NLR warning revoked, since going to the roof was my only option of getting a proof of the foul play.

CASE CLOSED
Jordan Not guilty.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21168

Neutral
You did provide evidence but unfortunately Nitroglycerin can unfreeze props (I think)
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21169

Well, you actually got a proof there. But you did also nlr, I don't know if you did that to show that he unfreezed your prop. I'd like to hear what Jordan say also.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21171

Morpheus wrote:
Well, you actually got a proof there. But you did also nlr, I don't know if you did that to show that he unfreezed your prop. I'd like to hear what Jordan say also.
Other comment - Anything else you want to add?
on top of the warning request, i would also like to get the NLR warning revoked, since going to the roof was my only option of getting a proof of the foul play.
He did say that
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21178

It could be as well the nitroglycerin, as Artyom said, and yes, it does unfreezes props.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21183

Artyom Barlow wrote:
Neutral
You did provide evidence but unfortunately Nitroglycerin can unfreeze props (I think)

Wouldn't he have included the explosion sound in the video, and would have been more aware of the raid?
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21185

Prophet wrote:
Artyom Barlow wrote:
Neutral
You did provide evidence but unfortunately Nitroglycerin can unfreeze props (I think)

Wouldn't he have included the explosion sound in the video, and would have been more aware of the raid?
True, true
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21189

Wouldn't he have included the explosion sound in the video, and would have been more aware of the raid?

i do have the video with sound but i didn't want to use it because my friend is talking to me over skype. im uploading it right now.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21191

Here's the video with sound.
http://youtu.be/Q8XkSujGP4E
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21193

Chutny wrote:
Here's the video with sound.
http://youtu.be/Q8XkSujGP4E

Okay now i'm quite sure that he abused his power and unfroze your prop, but I would still like his input before I make up my mind.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21194

Prophet wrote:
Chutny wrote:
Here's the video with sound.
http://youtu.be/Q8XkSujGP4E

Okay now i'm quite sure that he abused his power and unfroze your prop, but I would still like his input before I make up my mind.
^^ Same
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21199

Also at 0:26 you can hear somebody moving a fence.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21201

ufftator wrote:
Also at 0:26 you can hear somebody moving a fence.
You do as well
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21202

Chutny wrote:
Wouldn't he have included the explosion sound in the video, and would have been more aware of the raid?

i do have the video with sound but i didn't want to use it because my friend is talking to me over skype. im uploading it right now.
But, if I'm correct, talking to your friend over skype, phone, ect is metagame? Correct me if I'm wrong.
NEUTRAL until we have Jordan's story.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21205

pjread01 wrote:
Chutny wrote:
Wouldn't he have included the explosion sound in the video, and would have been more aware of the raid?

i do have the video with sound but i didn't want to use it because my friend is talking to me over skype. im uploading it right now.
But, if I'm correct, talking to your friend over skype, phone, ect is metagame? Correct me if I'm wrong.
NEUTRAL until we have Jordan's story.
I don't think it counts as metagaming unless you use information gathered from skype. by I do agree with you on the neutral part
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21210

pjread01 wrote:
Chutny wrote:
Wouldn't he have included the explosion sound in the video, and would have been more aware of the raid?

i do have the video with sound but i didn't want to use it because my friend is talking to me over skype. im uploading it right now.
But, if I'm correct, talking to your friend over skype, phone, ect is metagame? Correct me if I'm wrong.
NEUTRAL until we have Jordan's story.

Its no different from using TS
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21237

+Support

On the evidence provided and suggested tier of warning I will support this; as Jordan hasn't responded yet my mind may change if Jordan provides proof on his behalf.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21240

Elmer 無政府 wrote:
+Support

On the evidence provided and suggested tier of warning I will support this; as Jordan hasn't responded yet my mind may change if Jordan provides proof on his behalf.
I will do the same +support
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21272

Statement
I was with 'Sir Merdera' We used nitroglycerin and i always get my friends to use it as i realize that i can be accused of this.

Debate
ufftator wrote:
Also at 0:26 you can hear somebody moving a fence.

That noise is the gravity gun picking it up and letting go of the prop. This was actually 'Sir Merdera' picking up the prop as i had 150 Armour and he did not at the time so i was going to go down into the base first. He was moving the prop to let me get down.

Extra Information

By the recording the explosion would have made him start recording as i'm not one to judge but you wouldn't start recording randomly of you collecting money. This may just be coincidence though so i don't want to use this against my Warning Request.
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[CLOSED] Warning Request - Jordan 11 years 4 months ago #21290

Jawdan wrote:
Statement
I was with 'Sir Merdera' We used nitroglycerin and i always get my friends to use it as i realize that i can be accused of this.

Debate
ufftator wrote:
Also at 0:26 you can hear somebody moving a fence.

That noise is the gravity gun picking it up and letting go of the prop. This was actually 'Sir Merdera' picking up the prop as i had 150 Armour and he did not at the time so i was going to go down into the base first. He was moving the prop to let me get down.

Extra Information

By the recording the explosion would have made him start recording as i'm not one to judge but you wouldn't start recording randomly of you collecting money. This may just be coincidence though so i don't want to use this against my Warning Request.

okay i revisited the evidence video and i'm happy to announce that i was wrong.
after it came to my attention that Nitroglycerin could unfreeze props, i looked at my footage again and realized that there in fact was a small explosion which i had missed before. i also made a test to see if it could have been a random grenade at the street, but everything points towards jordan's story checking out.
Here is the video of the comparison i made http://youtu.be/jjRwqFptQ6M

with this in mind
I'm sorry for causing a false alarm, and i would like to apologize
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