TOPIC: Why Admins never cares complicated problems

Lewis_is_java wrote:
I didnt get to that player who did rule break but i did try. Also i wasnt trying to be not bothered. But i was trying.

Why you all shitting on poogle? There's very little he could've done here without a recording of the kos.

Questioning the rounds detectives only works if the culprit is dumb enough to admit rulebreaking

And lewis, since you're so fixated over ttt posts and topics overall on these forums I only expect you to be ex-staff, In which case you should know staffs problems in dealing with a case like this.
if you're not ex-staff, why are you even commenting on stuff you don't know anything about?

and then this
How exactly did you have the rank of an admin?

Gin wrote: Well considering I'm an active member I have a right to have a concern over how rulebreaks are being dealt see I'd rather not go through the effort of making a report if it's just going to be ignored cause someone can't go through a little effort especially if they're applying for SA as this sets a poor precedent for new staff cause it's a looked up to role so if this happens to be the case myself and other players might just stop playing due to this.

Lewis_is_java wrote: He is setting a poor precedent for upcoming staff by not rashly punishing people left and right without evidence?
You certainly have the right the be critical over staffs actions but being critical and ignorant at the same time is just borderline silly

Gin wrote: More of how he clearly said it was too much of an effort for him to actually try and do what was needed to punish a rule breaker again, if you can't be bothered why apply for a high ranking role.

Lewis_is_java wrote: Where does he exactly say that?

Gin wrote: So did you not read before you came in here guns blazing for your TTT admin friend or what? whatever you have to say after this is not worth a response as it's quite clear you're showing bias and will say anything at this point

Lewis_is_java wrote: I read this whole thread and in none of poogles responses does he show lack of care for this situation or the server.
I did not come here guns blazing, I only explained that poogle is not the devil you're so desperately trying to make him look like.
Looks like you ran out of points to whine about and realized you are nothing but a complaining customer at a walmart at this point
And I'm not friends with poogle, I can only tell him apart from the rest of the staff because he sounds like he's about to fall asleep every time he's playing.

Gin wrote: Actually I changed my mind cause I'm not going to be slandered by someone like you so let's go through all these points and debunk shall we
1. He clearly doesn't care otherwise the effort would have been put into finding the rulebreaker that's what being staff is about no?
2. I do not care for poogle anymore than I care for the rest off the staff I'm not making him out to be anything just concerened about someone becoming super admin if they do not truly care this is why I was curious like I stated so please get a grip and stop being such a melodramatic drama queen
3. Again not whining this isn't my report, but I am a customer true a person who enjoys the servers and plays on them without braking rules so try and be more respectufll and upstanding since you're also staff, are maybe there is something wrong with the TTT staff team in general? or is just you?
4. He's also clearly falling asleep when he's handling reports too huh

Lewis_is_java wrote:
I sound tired all the time but im not, I really try to help users.

poogle wrote: That's great I get that I really do but from what I've read it seems like you couldn't be bothered or found it too difficult to get to the bottom of this issue, someone broke a rule here and someone's experience got ruined while some dude got away with breaking the rules, and I only have an issue with this because of the high role you're applying for,

Lewis_is_java wrote:
honestly i tried my best and there isnt a lot you can do in that situation. I did try put the effort but you got to understand that not everything can be punished. And i this situation its difficult to get the actual person at fault. But could you not be so harsh

Lewis_is_java wrote:
1. The point that me, poogle and a CURRENT LEAD TEAM MEMBER Mattors are trying to make is that without evidence, this situation can't be dealt with properly
Poogle said that he even tried looking at the chat for false kos' and asking around from the rounds detectives, but with no success. That is as much a staff member can do in this case, where there is no evidence and he did not hear the false kos himself.

2. Get a grip? How about you carve into your thick skull that the inability to do something isn't the same as lack of care

3. Now this is my favourite part: It seems like your skills in observing are very lacking since you can take one tiny look at my banner and see that I am certainly not staff or even look at the staff list and see I am not in there
This makes me question how you perceive this situation: Maybe you think rittsu admitting there was nothing to be done means he does not care?

4. Bit of a low blow to make fun of someones attributes

poogle wrote: Sorry if I came across harsh I didnt mean to and I personally don't feel I was harsh with you , but my issue again isn't with you but your ability to deal with these situations with the rank you'reapplying for I'm sure you do lots but from this and what I've read I was just curious for your side and opinion as from what I recall this role is reserved for very dedicated people who have earned it

yeah it really isn't the staffs fault that there are loopholes in the rules

Again, Like I said, A super admin (the rank he is applying for!!!!!!) said the same thing as me and poogle
Just scroll back, the dudes name is Mattors, like i said in my earlier post

Gin wrote: the thing is the thing the original poster is annoyed about isnt that rittsu couldnt find the detective, he probbaly wouldnt have cared if he had seen them take even a few steps toward that. what hes on about is that rittsu didnt even try to find the detectives name and there responses. tbh i dont really know the context, there may have been many reports coming through at once and rittsu was trying to deal with lots of them at once and therefore couldnt put that much effort into this one so i dont really think this is a big deal imo

Maddox wrote: Man here you go again with the intellectual responses
If you weren't there, how can you claim the admin didn't do anything to resolve the situation?
You're former staff, you know a lot of users, mostly newcomers, get salty when an rdm situation can't be dealt with properly.

Let me cook up a more realistic scenario with imagination as the main dish with some staffing experience on the side:
The user was pissed when things didn't go their way and blamed staff even though they did all they could.
Hes using ADMINS as in plural in the title of this post, which indicates that he has had multiple encounters such as this in the past where staff could have been incompetent, could have been not, I don't know, I wasn't there.
Makes me think that this case riiight here was but a tipping point for this user and is using it as a reason to lash out.

Now I do understand this can be seen as unfair from a users viewpoint, but being rude, harsh and overly critical about how a situation is handled even though they don't know the proper procedures is just stupid.

Gin wrote: You're missing the point and everything is flying over your head keep all the salt out of that main dish, all poogle had to do is exactly what the super admin did that you keep refering to and explain the situation to the user and why he could not handle the situation instead of saying "idk", this is the lack of ability to handle the situation which would be quite clearly frustrating to any user.

Gin wrote: there are screenshots of the active chat and of chat on the post