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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287389

Justice wrote:
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Justice wrote:
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Biden lost, he's a pedo
Trump aint much better on that front lad
Trump doesn't borderline grope females on stage, nor does he smell their hair too.

Trump boasting about groping women:


Trump holding a woman's arms above her head and patting her ass (or at a minimum waist), also known as borderline groping of a female on stage:


Trump boasting about going into the changing rooms of teenagers in beauty pageants:
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/america...-stern-a7357866.html

Trump agreeing that his daughter is "a piece of ass":
www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/..._a_piece_of_ass.html

Trump saying that he would date his daughter:
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-tr...ad9bbf2d7?ri18n=true

Trump and Epstein being friendly at a party, one of many recorded encounters:

Ok while I usually disagree with whataboutism Winston Churchill was a massive racist and prick in general but was a great prime minister. Why do people care about the person they are voting for when it is only the policies that make a difference?

Personally I don't like Trump but not because I don't like the guy, it's because I don't like the polcies. It's just a bad argument as to why he shouldn't be president and will probably have an adverse effect on people you are trying to persuade.

User claimed that Trump wasn't something. I showed evidence that he was this something. That's all there is to it.
In addition, Churchill's behaviour wasn't as well known and was also more accepted back then than it is now. It's not really a relevant point.

Didn't see that you was proving someone wrong however my point still stands that you shouldn't vote for someone because you would be their mate or not.

Churchill's standing is a relevant point as racism isn't accepted now but he is still viewed as a good prime minister. Something being accepted in the past isn't an excuse for behaviour either, he was still a racist prick (but still a good prime minister.)

Indeed. However, considering over 200,000 American deaths; declaring victory before he has won; reversing climate change progress; lowering taxes for the extremely wealthy; failing to replace Obamacare as promised (or even come up with a replacement at all); his Muslim ban; almost starting a new war in January, and the fact that he only built nine new miles of his promised border wall, I don't think Trump will be remembered as a good president.

Oh yes I agree 1000% he is a shitty ass president and person but I believe they should be judged independently. My favourite was Bernie but since he withdrew I am supporting Biden by default.
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287391




However, considering over 200,000 American deaths
I can understand if someone listens to this fact 24/7 one might begin to completely pin the blame on Trump, but it's simply not the case. In the United States you'll feel the biggest impact from government on a local level rather than a federal one. Trump definitely should have urged his supporters to wear more masks, follow social distancing measures, and he was ignorant for not doing so. However, it's just completely disingenuous for anyone to try and put those 200,000 dead on his hands. Ultimately it's at the fault of failure on a state and local government level, our healthcare systems fault for relying on outside country manufacturing for things like medicine and PPE that led our health and safety workers to be unprepared. New York and Florida specifically were demonstrable failures just to name a few.
Declaring victory before he has won; reversing climate change progress
Agreed, bad decisions both politically and socially.
Lowering taxes for the extremely wealthy
I think this is referencing his tax cuts a few years back that benefitted largely big business. Ultimately I don't think it's a bad thing, most american families got tax credits if they had children as well as tax cuts. Is it the most progressive initiative? No. But, no doubt the Economy was the best it's ever been for a lot of families. Even 56% of people said they're better off than they were 4 years ago and that was a statistic taken during the time of a pandemic. (Link to Article here.)
Failing to replace Obamacare as promised (or even come up with a replacement at all)
Indeed something he fail to get done. I feel he would have made more progress with a Republican controlled House & Senate but this is the real world and things rarely ever go the way people think they will.
His Muslim ban
I don't believe it was a targeted Muslim ban, as I had heard the countries he used for the ban were taken from the Obama Administration years prior. People can debate if it was a Muslim targeted ban, but it's just down to who you support and who you don't in my opinion.
Almost starting a new war in January, and the fact that he only built nine new miles of his promised border wall

Not sure what the war is in reference to, but Trump has been actively avoiding war. People all predicted when he got elected he would somehow bring about a nuclear holocaust, but trump in fact has been staying out of these needless foreign wars. In the United States there are "warmongers" who seemingly just want to send kids to their death in these countries just to make money off the war machine and this is something trump has always been against and definitely a distinctive difference between him and the last republican in office, George Bush. As for the wall, over 400 new miles of border wall have been built. Some of that has been on fortifying and rebuilding previous barriers put in place, but that's expected.
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287428

Hi @Morgan thanks for the response.
1. Obviously 200,000+ deaths aren't solely Trumps fault, it's the fault of the virus, but yes that number would be much lower if he didn't perpetuate various myths about the virus and told people to follow the scientists.
2. Before taking power, Trump said he wanted a ban on Muslims entering the country, and all countries chosen had a high Muslim population as opposed to a high terrorism security concern. That's a reason many call it a Muslim Ban.
3. The war thing is referring to when Trump killed an Iranian general at the start of the year and tensions were incredibly high.
4. Though many miles of wall have been built, only 15 (as of now) are actually new (out of the promised 450-500 new miles), so barely any actual progress has been made on creating the wall he promised. The funding of it was actually done by America itself, causing a government shutdown and Trump declaring a National Emergency in order to redirect other money to it.
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287429

american politics is too difficult for me to understand but im hoping trump does not win for the sake of america
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287498


its over, it was clear that biden would win on nov 4th already. trump lost.
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287505

Vladimir Putin for the win
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287527

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its over, it was clear that biden would win on nov 4th already. trump lost.
not yet
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287645

President Trump has won! You know.... if you count the legal votes!
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287677

JoshuaIsGreat wrote:
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its over, it was clear that biden would win on nov 4th already. trump lost.
not yet
yes yet
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287678

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President Trump has won! You know.... if you count the legal votes!
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287679

Martin wrote:
President Trump has won! You know.... if you count the legal votes!
i hope you are being sarcastic :clap:
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287688

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President Trump has won! You know.... if you count the legal votes!
You are unmatched in the talent of being not funny
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287693

Well at the moment GA and NV are sitting at blue so it is literally impossible for Trump to win now unless both of them shift to red. Looks like Biden is going to win after all.

Edit: Biden doesn't even need GA to win, just NV, so /shrug
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287695

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Well at the moment GA and NV are sitting at blue so it is literally impossible for Trump to win now unless both of them shift to red. Looks like Biden is going to win after all.

Edit: Biden doesn't even need GA to win, just NV, so /shrug
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287696

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I'm predicting Trump will be back in the White House this time tomorrow. Biden may be ahead in the polls but then so was Hillary in 2016. Good luck to all!

<<retracted bet>>

Starting to wish I hadn't done this :angry:
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287701

biden won
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287703

PA has called Joe Biden, bringing him up to 273 electoral college votes. Joe Biden is now the 46th President of the United States (unless voter fraud is found).
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287735

It appears my sources were not correct, I will be unlocking this immediately. Sorry for the inconvenience!
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287737

ChuteUK with the next level bait, saying trump will be in white house day after he posted his message.
Biden does not become president until january 20th.
Also, its over; it was obvious from the beginning trump did not have a chance of winning.
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Election Predictions 4 years 7 months ago #1287752

FluffyOP wrote:
ChuteUK with the next level bait, saying trump will be in white house day after he posted his message.
Biden does not become president until january 20th.
Also, its over; it was obvious from the beginning trump did not have a chance of winning.
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