I think I didn't communicate myself here because I do notify the player what they have done wrong (Depends on different factors like if they're mass RDMing, or a long time player who I know knows that rule. I usually notify them through PM, OOC or if need by voice)
The question arose when I saw lazy bro breaking NLR after telling him not to earlier. The warn was a total miscommunication between me and Kpro as I assumed it was crossfire but it was an intentional RDM.
Anyway the issue arose because Lazy thought I had to give him a sit based on the post red made and I wasn't sure because Keith said it was almost up to my discretion (Keep in mind I miss-understood what he said).
Considering lazy was a long standing member who knows the rules and had just told not to break NLR (Which I shouldn't have) I warned him without a sit.
This being said I usually use descriptive warns, and explain if it's not obvious. E.G. A gun dealer RDMing me in spawn while I just spawned ain't gonna get a explanation into why it's RDM unless he explicitly asks for one. Because it's self-explanatory. On the other hand a mutant RDMing outside of the designated districts would get an explanation.
RedPowder wrote:
NLR: If someone gets RDM'ed or its banter between a staff member and I'm there to witness it I will let them break NLR because I'm not going to punish people for something they had no role play factor in.
I've heard different things and wanted to clarify, that's how I act as well.
RedPowder wrote:
The last part where you said I told you is completely true and it will always be that way. I will not and will never let someone be punished for something they have no idea about. I'm not sure why this is even a post most of the things you listed are very simple.
I think I didn't communicate that properly. See above, but again I will explain if need be based on context. I was just questioning if I was forced to on every warn or if it's up to my discretion.
RedPowder wrote:
Ps: I noticed you mentioned lazy bros post and so I will mention that since KPRO, YOU and LAZYBRO have been role playing together I have heard nothing but shit about you all. Your all trying to twist and bend rules and when things are not going well you all just minge around.
I don't understand where you're getting this from. I'm trying to keep an eye on them while having a bit of fun (RPing with them). I didn't bend the rules or allowed them to. I tried to get them to stop and minging and even had to warn them.
RedPowder wrote:
I recommend you all just cut the shit and just get back to playing the game. We had ZERO issues with anything of the above until the three of you got together so I'm not sure which one of you are actually causing the issues but it needs to stop!
The reasons I brought this up was because lazy bro was confused as what I had gathered is that I could within my discretion warn without a situation, he considered it necessary. The second one was just because of thing I'd heard and wanted to clear up aswell.
RedPowder wrote:
And in regards to the slam jumping I know it's been made clear that they didn't want you guys doing this and you continued to let them do it so you're in the wrong if you or anyone else had a problem they should of brought it to our attention and stop doing it until further notice.
Now this was confusing. I asked red if using them to boost your jump is fine, he replied with It ain't in the rules so yes. Then Jordan asked you if they could be used for
Flying and I was unsure if you where talking about the same thing. I attempted to alert you but to no avail. Since your previous comment on it's not in the rules so no. I kept to it until you replied, which you never did.
RedPowder wrote:
Fighting with Keith or whom ever else said they didn't want you doing it just make you look like as ass.
That was me failing to convey what I meant correctly.
EMP wrote:
That is an absolutely terrible way to administrate. You should always talk to a player and make sure they understand what they did to break what ever rule you are warning them for. How can you expect a player to learn from his mistakes if he doesn't understand what he did in the first place. If lets say you have a newer player who has just started playing gmod/darkrp, you join ZARP and a couple minutes into playing he break a rule. He is then blindly warned for it, but no admin ever shows up to tell him why, he cannot really know exactly what he did wrong. While he could make an <em>assumption</em> about why he received the warning based off the reason provided, but he will never be 100% certain. Because the admin was to lazy to take two minutes out of his day to make sure he understood what he did and why it was wrong.
Its the same thing has banning without talking to the banee. They will learn nothing via the ban screen and the only way you turn a minge into a regular player is by working with them.
I do however agree with Keith that you can warn someone without a sit if they are doing the exact exact same thing.
As for the rules thing, if something is not stated in the rules you cannot warn for it. That again is a terible way to administrate. How is it fair to punish a player for doing something they could not possibly know was wrong?
I do. I was just asking whether it's forced upon me to do no-matter what or can I wave it depending on various contextual variables (I couldn't think of another way of putting it)
ScorpionOnAcid wrote:
And now we hope that Soxey finally got it through his thick skull that just because he was an SA a year ago doesn't mean he can still get all the power - especially when he is being a minge on the forums with his "Applications".
What applications are you referring to? My mod application? That was part of a joke.
If you're referring to my admin application I was trying to squeeze an extra week to get SA faster then tea-leaf.
They say there's no harm in trying. Apparently not when scorps on the case.