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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209501

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So first off let me explain what this post is about and what each video and technique is about and how it fits in the "semi-serious RP" aspect of the server.
This post is made to showcase some interesting things you can do in the DarkRP server and to then justify it fitting into the current model of "semi-serious RP".
To begin I will show you a video of me using the slams in a manner that allows me to jump a larger distance than usual so that I can reach another building top. Although this is not exactly something that will help me a whole bunch it does however provide a good laugh when you are messing around with friends or just want to reach a base that might be positioned on rooftop opposite you.

This second video is another one which shows me doing some bhops around the PD district and how it gives me a slight edge in speed when moving around the map. This is not using scripts of any kind as you can see and required me to spend quite a bit of time timing my spacebar jumps. If you are willing to put in the time then it can pay off a little.

And finally this last video will showcase me using amphetamine which takes 3 minutes to create using a drug lab but can be stockpiled and also carried to raids using your grav gun. Such as using morphine when going to raid a base or defend a base. But the difference in this is that I can use 2 amphetamines to jump around the map and jump from roof to roof without losing any hp and not stopping hugely due to missing a jump when bhopping.


Now allow me to justify these techniques and show how each have their own pros and cons and should not be made against the rules in order to provide users with more freedom in how they roleplay without ruining the RP of other players.
Firstly in relation to the video of me using the slams to jump across the building, as we can see at the end of the video I try to highlight the hp bar which was lowered all the way from 100 hp and 25 armour to 32 hp. I think we can safely say that it will not exactly give me an unfair advantage if I decided to use this to raid another base. Not only is this extremely easy for players to do, it is extremely destructive to the user. If used in a raid it will most likely end in the user being killed with a single shot.
On the opposite side of the spectrum we can see the amphetamine. Takes little to no money to create and only requires the user to wait 3 minutes and consume it when wanting their speed boost. We can see in the video that I easily jump to the other building and take no damage penalty doing so. I then return to get my other amphetamine and reset my timer (You could just carry it with grav gun whilst running and use it as it runs out to maximise your timer). The amphetamine drug has been in ZARP since I joined close to 2 years ago and will most likely continue to remain in ZARP due to it being a fun item to use when basing or raiding.
Secondly we go onto the bhopping. This has been accepted as something users can do and is not being posted to discuss it and instead for me just to show that putting time into something can have some benefits in the long run when playing on ZARP. I am probably on-par with Kpro when bhopping and even then we make mistakes quite a lot of the time and it ends up costing us by allowing cops to arrest us or players to kill us. We allow bhopping because this server is semi-serious and is not like the PERP gamemode where we need to act like we are actually bound by real life laws and boundaries. I mean for heaven's sake we have these fancy thunderguns and gluon guns that can completely destroy someone's base and instant kill players. It's not like we as a community are screaming for realism. We come to ZARP because it can be a laid back place that allows us to roleplay like we want and not be completely restricted like other RP servers.

Finally I want to thank you for reading and would love to hear some responses and give me your opinions on this whole thing. As you can tell I think the more things we have to separate us from other RP servers, the better.
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209502

This should definitely be allowed, it's completely fair for all players and fits in with SEMI-Serious RP.
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209503

I think they're fine as the only one that's actually gonna give you the edge as amphetamine or bhopping. Jumping onto roofs is not gonna help you play the game.
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209505

As long as they each have their own "side effect" as in visuals etc.
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209518

the slam boosting shouldent be allowed. Since you will be able to reach places that you wouldent normally would be able to reach... Also its kinda FailRP trying to blow urself up for fun, if you ask me. its just like typing "kill" in console
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209519

I totally agree with Keith on the SLAM part and I've never seen anyone actually do it. About the BHopping, I think it should stay allowed. It's good to have an edge over the game which only requires skill. As with the amphetamine I highly doubt it's gonna be removed. It's been there for ages
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209520

Nutzu3650XL wrote:
I totally agree with Keith on the SLAM part and I've never seen anyone actually do it. About the BHopping, I think it should stay allowed. It's good to have an edge over the game which only requires skill. As with the amphetamine I highly doubt it's gonna be removed. It's been there for ages


The bhop should stay there, you can take it as real life, some people are faster than others... Even though i dont think people can jump like that irl....
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209521

Keith Cozart wrote:
the slam boosting shouldent be allowed. Since you will be able to reach places that you wouldent normally would be able to reach... Also its kinda FailRP trying to blow urself up for fun, if you ask me. its just like typing "kill" in console
But the reason I made this post was to clear up the idea that I wouldn't be able to make it to that place normally. The amphetamine drug is in the game and has been for years and provides the exact same thing but without the health loss.
It would not be classed as FailRP as I am not blowing myself up for fun and I am instead taking advantage of the semi-serious aspect of the server. We are not PERP and shouldn't act like we are. Typing "kill" in console is not the same as using a slam to jump a larger distance just like getting someone to shoot you and using it as a boost is also not like typing "kill" in console.
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209522

LazyBro wrote:
Keith Cozart wrote:
the slam boosting shouldent be allowed. Since you will be able to reach places that you wouldent normally would be able to reach... Also its kinda FailRP trying to blow urself up for fun, if you ask me. its just like typing "kill" in console
But the reason I made this post was to clear up the idea that I wouldn't be able to make it to that place normally. The amphetamine drug is in the game and has been for years and provides the exact same thing but without the health loss.
It would not be classed as FailRP as I am not blowing myself up for fun and I am instead taking advantage of the semi-serious aspect of the server. We are not PERP and shouldn't act like we are. Typing "kill" in console is not the same as using a slam to jump a larger distance just like getting someone to shoot you and using it as a boost is also not like typing "kill" in console.

There is people being warned for killing themselves over and over again. Also i am not saying that if somebody killed themselves, you should warn them or anything like that. The drugs are made to be able to benefit in raids and stuff like that, there is a reason they do what they do. I can live with people having fun with the slams and all of that, but it can be abuse ALOT. People are clever, they are gonna find ways to get to impossible places using them
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209523

Keith Cozart wrote:
LazyBro wrote:
Keith Cozart wrote:
the slam boosting shouldent be allowed. Since you will be able to reach places that you wouldent normally would be able to reach... Also its kinda FailRP trying to blow urself up for fun, if you ask me. its just like typing "kill" in console
But the reason I made this post was to clear up the idea that I wouldn't be able to make it to that place normally. The amphetamine drug is in the game and has been for years and provides the exact same thing but without the health loss.
It would not be classed as FailRP as I am not blowing myself up for fun and I am instead taking advantage of the semi-serious aspect of the server. We are not PERP and shouldn't act like we are. Typing "kill" in console is not the same as using a slam to jump a larger distance just like getting someone to shoot you and using it as a boost is also not like typing "kill" in console.

There is people being warned for killing themselves over and over again. Also i am not saying that if somebody killed themselves, you should warn them or anything like that. The drugs are made to be able to benefit in raids and stuff like that, there is a reason they do what they do. I can live with people having fun with the slams and all of that, but it can be abuse ALOT. People are clever, they are gonna find ways to get to impossible places using them

I understand what you mean. But the jumping distance with slams is equal if not less than the jumping distance with amphetamine. I don't mind making another video showcasing it. It is just that it is different to killing yourself over and over as I am using it to get to another building and instead of waiting the 3 minutes to get amphetamine I am instead sacrificing the majority of my hp. I mean it's an even trade off. I also mention that the server has gluon guns and thunder guns which means this makes little to no difference if I were to raid a base using this anyway since I could just use a thundergun or gluon gun to instantly raid/kill people anyway. This is simply a technique people can use freely similar to bhopping.
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #209527

Slam jumping looks impressive but it's really not. I mean you can take less than 25 damage and don't get much of a speed boost.
It's almost similar to dropping down a building or using amphetamine
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Community Opinions on Slams, Amphetamine & Bhops 9 years 9 months ago #210156

I Think it is fine

It is fun to fly around the map and slam jump to buildings
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